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Postby YankFan51 » Sun May 25, 2003 12:57 am

Team A proposed to Team B

Team A gives up Jacque Jones and Barry Zito
Team B gives up Manny Ramirez and Kevin Millwood

Team B accepts, and it says pending

I let it through thinking the deal is on the uppity up. However, then right after I allowed trade, I get an IM from Team B to veto the deal, since he accidentally accepted it. There was nothing I could do though, since it was already put through.

My question is, does Team A have an obligation to give back Ramirez and Millwood, or is this a case of "Too Bad, So Sad" for Team B? Look over your buttons more closely
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Postby Captain Crash » Sun May 25, 2003 1:10 am

My feeling is you have to have a little human aspect to any deal... I mean, if he didn't really intend to accept it, you have to have at least a little trust and believe him.
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Postby YankFan51 » Sun May 25, 2003 1:12 am

Well, obviously I believe him. But look at this from this perspective, if someone accidentally drops a stud in their league, do you think that stud is gonna get to them after the waiver claims, regardless of whether it was accidental? My main question is whether the error was done, thus making the trade good. If you accidentally dropped A-Rod, do you have to take responsibility for that accidental drop and lose him or will you get him back?
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Postby Sponge » Sun May 25, 2003 1:27 am

I would ask Team A if it's ok. If he says no then you have to let the trade be. If team A gives the ok, you can allow the trade to be taken back.
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Postby jdh » Sun May 25, 2003 1:58 am

It all depends on the sportsmanship of the other owner. Tell the owner that accidentally accepted the trade to explain to the other owner what happened, and that he never intended to accept the trade. Ask the other owner if he is willing to reverse the trade. If he is willing, all is fine and good. If he refuses, then the owner that messed up the trade offer is just SOL. Regardless if you wanted to reverse it or not, in a Yahoo league, unless the owner has changed the default setting to allow the commish to edit rosters, you can't do anything about it if he refuses.

It's the same deal with accidentally dropping a stud. The person that realizes he accidentally dropped say ARod can post a message saying it was a mistake and to please not claim him. If the other owners want to be honest about it and take that at face value, then they can, and he can get ARod back once he clears waivers. If one owner decides not to do so, then it's tough luck and basically people have to be paying attention to what they're doing.
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Postby ramble2 » Sun May 25, 2003 2:38 am

As commissioner in my league, I've had this happen on more than one occassion. I always let everyone know that if a trade needs to be canceled that both parties have to verify this. By making this known ahead of time it helps take care of situations like this.

I'm with jdh on the other situation as well. Typically, if someone accidently drops a player, I'll post something as the commissioner supporting the post of the manager who accidently cut them. For the most part, people in the league are willing to cut others slack (after all, there is some punishment in not having that player on roster for a few days). One thing that I tell the manager is that they need to put in a waiver request for that player, in effect penalizing them their waiver priority for their mistake.

Note, though, that if the manager picks up another player while waiting for the original player to clear waivers then it is not as clear what to do. In most cases such as this, I would not support the manager who was trying to get his player back.
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Postby jdh » Sun May 25, 2003 2:43 am

The problem with costing them their waiver priority is that at least in Yahoo leagues, you cannot put in a waiver request for a player you dropped. You have to wait until they clear waivers.
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Postby wrveres » Sun May 25, 2003 3:28 am

IMO...

1st offense ... Swap em back ..
2nd and any reacurring offense.. NO ..


it has to be that cut and dry, to account for human error.
Then you must assume, the owner has learned his lesson, and won't do it again ..
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Postby Nero » Sun May 25, 2003 5:58 am

wrveres wrote:IMO...

1st offense ... Swap em back ..
2nd and any reacurring offense.. NO ..


it has to be that cut and dry, to account for human error.
Then you must assume, the owner has learned his lesson, and won't do it again ..


That system works for me
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Postby Madison » Sun May 25, 2003 6:20 am

Agreed.
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