I dont understand why these idiots believe that closers are the most important postin. One guy drtafted 1- 5 Smoltz, Gagne, Percival, Wagner, Sasaki. Whats is that? Then they believe that hot players like Mondesi are worth nothing. Next they have droped many good players. Here is a list of some of the FA talent at some point this year.
And back to the closer thing, I was laughed at when I offered Mondesi for Sasaki.
I wouldn't have laughed at you, but I will tell you Mondesi is not worth Sasaki. I agree with your league on that one. Just barely not worth him but nonetheless not worth him.
As for the guy that drafted closers 1-5, What do you care? Let him crash and burn in all other categories besides saves and then when he gets desperate give him less than equal value for 1 or 2 of his closers. be patient and you'll outlast his patience if he's an active league participant. If he's not then that's how it goes and be glad none of the other contending teams have any of these closers either.
I also don't find it outrageous that those players you pointed out were on the wire at some point. It's dumb I'll give you that but I've seen worse. Last year a guy released Shawn Green to make room for a non-struggling outfielder and I picked him up. The very next day he hit 4 homeruns in a game. How's that for a christmas present in springtime?!
Some people have a bizzare obsession with closers, and in leagues where there are no minimum innings, some people use the strategy of having no starting pitchers and a pitching staff built of all closers, reasoning that it allows them to dominate in ERA, WHIP and saves. In reality, it's a really dumb strategy because you are throwing away wins, K's, and putting your offense in a hole.
I also would not have given you Sasaki for Mondesi, because that isn't enough to get for a top 10 closer. Everyone likely is well aware of Mondesi's past history and that he is likely not going to keep anything close to this up. Unless you are playing with people who don't know too much about baseball, they won't buy into the sell high strategy of overpaying for hot players.
There are stupid people in every league. It's best to find a good group of managers and stick with them every year. You can build up some fun rivalries and histories that way. I have one good league, and 3 scrub leagues on Yahoo. One of those scrub leagues has vetoed 80 % of the trades that have been offerred. Bernie Williams for Rivera was a recent one, Morris 4 Sheffield was one I had vertoed pre-season. None have been collusive, just a bunch of veto happy retards, and I'm shy about vetoing if I think one team unfairly gains an edge.
Drafting 5 RP in your first 5 picks is just stupid. The guy won't contend in the end. Mid-pack at best. If RP is hard to come by, tank the category. Saves and Steals can be tanked safely. One or the other, not both (don't ignore both, don't worry too much about either). By drafting quality SP and 30+HR/.300 AVG+ guys you help yourself in 4 of 5 categories. Finishing mid pack in Saves and Steals is acceptable if you are at or near the top of RBI's, Runs, HR's, AVG, W's, K's, ERA, WHIP. If you can grab a RP later in the year to climb a few point in the category, great.
* Steroid induced record
I'm in a points league, where a closer is worth about 1/3 of the point value of a player like ARod, and there is still a guy obsessed with them. He drafted 3 in his top 10. Who knows why.
I on the other hand drafted only 2 closers (both past the 17th round) and picked up another two off the waivers, and I'm sitting 5 spots ahead of him.
Why some people are so infatuated with closers is beyond me.
I usually lead the saves category in my matchups...But that's not because I have five closers on my team...I have Smoltz, Williams and Koch....Smoltz gets like 80% of my saves, Williams adds another 15% and occasionally Billy koch gets the chance to close a game and that makes up for the other 5%....
It's crazy to have 5 closers on a team, I agree with that...But I'm sure they'll learn....If they don't, let em burn.....
I think I've devided my pitching staff up pretty well...
SP Pedro Martinez (SP-Bos)
SP Mark Mulder (SP-Oak)
RP John Smoltz (RP-Atl)
RP Mike Williams (RP-Pit)
P Freddy Garcia (SP-Sea)
P Mike Hampton (SP-Atl)
P Billy Koch (RP-CWS)
Bench Brett Myers (SP-Phi)
Bench Esteban Loaiza (SP-CWS)
DL Josh Beckett (SP-Fla)
I have 5 closers: gagne, foulke, williamson, politte and macdougal and i drafted gagne, foulke and williamson in the first 15 rounds...i'm in first place by 9 games and get 9-10 saves every week...its not so crazy