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Postby jjigglers » Thu May 05, 2005 9:39 pm

dontrelle gets bumped then, and will move up/down as he does better/worse.
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Postby ravenmad22 » Fri May 06, 2005 3:39 am

Nice list. Good to see Escobar get his props. He should win 15 games with 185 K's this year.

However, my darling Jeremy Bonderman needs to move up about 10 spots right above Radke (who is also money, don't get me wrong). He strikes people out and is showing flashes of utter dominance. He has better stuff than many pitchers above him. He escaped so many jams this week against boston this week, and that shows that he has a strong makeup and mentality. He is not fazed when things don't go his way, he buckles down and gets people out. Add in the fact that he's 22 years old and pitches in the weakest hitting division in baseball, and you've got a gem. Not that this board is unfamiliar with Jeremy Bonderman!
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Re: Top 60 SP, feel free to contribute

Postby warrick95 » Fri May 06, 2005 12:49 pm

jjigglers wrote:Rankings geared towards future performance, and having nothing to do with past performance. Feel free to put input, this isnt really for me, but for everyone else to see where their pitchers stand. 12 team league, say 5 SP on each roster, 60 pitchers.

1 Johan Santana, Min
2 Randy Johnson, NYY
3 Pedro Martinez, NYM
4 Jason Schmidt, SF
5 Mark Prior, ChC
6 Roy Oswalt, Hou
7 Curt Schilling, Bos
8 Ben Sheets, Mil
9 Jake Peavy, SD
10 Tim Hudson, Atl
11 Roger Clemens, Hou
12 Rich Harden, Oak

13 Josh Beckett, Fla
14 Roy Halladay, Tor
15 Carlos Zambrano, ChC
16 John Smoltz, Atl
17 Oliver Perez, Pit
18 Mark Mulder, StL
19 A.J. Burnett, Fla
20 Javier Vazquez, Ari
21 Kerry Wood, ChC
22 Kelvim Escobar, Ana
23 Mike Mussina, NYY
24 Chris Carpenter, Stl

25 Livan Hernandez, Was
26 Bartolo Colon, Ana
27 Dontrelle Willis, Fla
28 Matt Clement, Bos
29 Jon Lieber, Phi
30 Derek Lowe, LAD
31 Carl Pavano, NYY
32 Brandon Webb, Ari
33 Odalis Perez, LA
34 Mark Buehrle, ChW
35 Freddy Garcia, ChW
36 Brad Radke, Min

37 C.C. Sabathia, Cle
38 Greg Maddux, ChC
39 Jeremy Bonderman, Det
40 Jon Garland, ChW
41 Zack Greinke, KC
42 Bret Myers, Phi
43 Brad Penny, LA
44 John Patterson, Was
45 Jeff Weaver, LA
46 Matt Morris, Stl
47 Mike Hampton, Atl
48 Wade Miller, Bos

49 Barry Zito, Oak
50 Jake Westbrook, Cle
51 Gustavo Chacin, Tor
52 Esteban Loaiza, Was
53 John Thomson, Atl
54 Doug Davis, Mil
55 Andy Pettitte, Hou
56 Bruce Chen, Bal
57 Jason Marquis, Stl
58 Al Leiter, Fla
59 Jamie Moyer, Sea
60 Bronson Arroyo, Bos

Just Missed:
Erik Bedard, Bal
David Wells, Bos
Orlando Hernandez, ChW
Jaret Wright, NYY
Josh Towers, Tor
Dan Haren, Oak
Joe Blanton, Oak


I was going to comment, but it'd be faster if I just typed my own rankings (organized by tiers):
1. Santana
2. R. Johnson
3. P. Martinez
4. Schmidt
5. Oswalt
6. Sheets
7. Prior
8. Hudson
9. Schilling

10. Halladay
11. Beckett
12. Burnett
13. Harden
14. Peavy
15. Clemens
16. C. Zambrano
17. Mulder
18. Smoltz

19. Mussina
20. Ol. Perez
21. Colon
22. Wood

23. Pavano
24. Vazquez
25. Od. Perez

That's probably what my top-25 would be.......
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Postby Rookies » Fri May 06, 2005 1:00 pm

Peavy seems a bit low on your list Warrick95. What else does he have to do to prove he belongs with the big boys?
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Postby bceagles04 » Fri May 06, 2005 1:40 pm

wow, mussina a but hig maybe? Peavy too low??? It wqould be cool if you finished off your list! I want to see where you rate my SP's aside from Randy and Odalis
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Postby jjigglers » Fri May 06, 2005 6:13 pm

yeah man, i think peavy is going to be really good this year.
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Postby davidmarver » Fri May 06, 2005 6:18 pm

Peavy is far too low on Warlicks, and maybe a slot of two too low on the original posters (below Zambrano?). Also, whoever would want Kerry Wood is out of their mind.
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