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Postby ravenmad22 » Mon May 02, 2005 4:54 am

Burgos is a fill-in for Affeldt. Affeldt will NOT be moved back to the rotation because of his injury history and the fact that he hates bouncing back and forth between the rotation and the pen. That decision has been made by the Royals and is unlikely to be changed. Affeldt has far too much talent to be a middle-man on that team.

Burgos did OK but he's got major control issues, and is far too green to succeed in the ML closer role.

Don't forget, Affeldt has mad skills, he's a lefty who throws 95 with a monster 12-6 breaking ball. A healthy Affeldt (which is really the key here, and the one point I might concede) will definetly be the closer when he returns. I expect 20 saves out of Affeldt, and about 3 out of Burgos.
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Postby unclepaulie » Mon May 02, 2005 9:46 am

Affeldt has far too much talent to be a middle-man on that team.


O.K. now you've lost me???????? You must be a worried Affeldt owner?
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Postby slomo007 » Mon May 02, 2005 11:30 am

unclepaulie wrote:
Affeldt has far too much talent to be a middle-man on that team.


O.K. now you've lost me???????? You must be a worried Affeldt owner?


He's right though...Affeldt has a TON of talent. Don't you remember when he was supposed to be the staff ace last year? Injuries have constantly held him back, well, that and poor coaching. He used to be a tremendous strikeout pitcher, then the coaches requested that he quit trying to strike everyone out and focus on letting the "good defense" get guys out. Too bad their defense isn't good, and Affeldt has now changed his pitching style.
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Postby Amazinz » Mon May 02, 2005 11:45 am

Burgos probably won't keep the job when Affeldt is ready to return but there is always that chance. So in the meanttime the kid looks pretty good, can get you some SVs and heck, you just might get lucky. ;-)
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Postby slomo007 » Mon May 02, 2005 11:56 am

Amazinz wrote:Burgos probably won't keep the job when Affeldt is ready to return but there is always that chance. So in the meanttime the kid looks pretty good, can get you some SVs and heck, you just might get lucky. ;-)


He had a 4.38 ERA in single A last year, and you expect him to be a good closer in the Majors? No way, I know he's young, but you don't just make a jump and excell unless you're a true phenom (ie Prior) .

I have a feeling the venting forum will be crowded after he gets lit up a few times.
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Postby perlick29 » Mon May 02, 2005 2:04 pm

I'm hoping for the best out of this kid. The fact that he throws flame is a good weapin to have, one that on a short-term basis can lead to domination, which is while I think he'll continue to be effective. I had Affeldt last year as a starter, and I truly think that is where he belongs. Why not let your past starting pitcher throw as many innings possible? Think about a nice 1-2-3 of Greinke, Affy, and Bautista. That's much more competitive than anything else they could do at least on the SP front.
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Postby ravenmad22 » Mon May 02, 2005 2:06 pm

perlick29 wrote:I'm hoping for the best out of this kid. The fact that he throws flame is a good weapin to have, one that on a short-term basis can lead to domination, which is while I think he'll continue to be effective. I had Affeldt last year as a starter, and I truly think that is where he belongs. Why not let your past starting pitcher throw as many innings possible? Think about a nice 1-2-3 of Greinke, Affy, and Bautista. That's much more competitive than anything else they could do at least on the SP front.


Did you read my post earlier in this thread? Affeldt is too injury prone to be a starter. KC mangagement and Affeldt have agreed on this. The best place for him to be is as a closer, where his skills can be utilized.
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Postby ravenmad22 » Mon May 02, 2005 2:09 pm

unclepaulie wrote:
Affeldt has far too much talent to be a middle-man on that team.


O.K. now you've lost me???????? You must be a worried Affeldt owner?


You must be someone who's never seen affeldt pitch. He has top of the rotation stuff and can be dominant if he ever gets healthy.

Every scout in baseball would agree with me here.
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Postby perlick29 » Mon May 02, 2005 2:18 pm

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perlick29 wrote:I'm hoping for the best out of this kid. The fact that he throws flame is a good weapin to have, one that on a short-term basis can lead to domination, which is while I think he'll continue to be effective. I had Affeldt last year as a starter, and I truly think that is where he belongs. Why not let your past starting pitcher throw as many innings possible? Think about a nice 1-2-3 of Greinke, Affy, and Bautista. That's much more competitive than anything else they could do at least on the SP front.


Did you read my post earlier in this thread? Affeldt is too injury prone to be a starter. KC mangagement and Affeldt have agreed on this. The best place for him to be is as a closer, where his skills can be utilized.


Injury prone doesn't really fly in my book If you check his history. His previous injuries have been with blisters, but he had replacement treatment done on it to cure the nail. He hasn't had problems with it since. His oblique muscle he's hurt both times as a closer. I'd think they'd be better off with with him in the rotation because as you say: "He's got top of the rotation stuff." To which I 100% agree, and he keeps injuring himself as a closer, why not let him go back.
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Postby ravenmad22 » Mon May 02, 2005 2:29 pm

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perlick29 wrote:I'm hoping for the best out of this kid. The fact that he throws flame is a good weapin to have, one that on a short-term basis can lead to domination, which is while I think he'll continue to be effective. I had Affeldt last year as a starter, and I truly think that is where he belongs. Why not let your past starting pitcher throw as many innings possible? Think about a nice 1-2-3 of Greinke, Affy, and Bautista. That's much more competitive than anything else they could do at least on the SP front.


Did you read my post earlier in this thread? Affeldt is too injury prone to be a starter. KC mangagement and Affeldt have agreed on this. The best place for him to be is as a closer, where his skills can be utilized.


Injury prone doesn't really fly in my book If you check his history. His previous injuries have been with blisters, but he had replacement treatment done on it to cure the nail. He hasn't had problems with it since. His oblique muscle he's hurt both times as a closer. I'd think they'd be better off with with him in the rotation because as you say: "He's got top of the rotation stuff." To which I 100% agree, and he keeps injuring himself as a closer, why not let him go back.


Well, we agree he COULD be a good starter, it's just all that I've heard from KC is that Affeldt and Pena were sick of him bouncing around the pen and the rotation, so they made a decision to make him the closer and leave him there.
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