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Postby RynMan » Mon May 02, 2005 5:58 am

I really wasnt high on him last year or this year, but I never thought he would be this bad. !+)
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Mon May 02, 2005 8:07 am

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Slump Busters wrote:I bought into all the hype and was happy to have him on my team, I have rarely used him and am considering dropping him. I know its early but I have not seen any "greatness" yet.

Plus I hear Randolpf has the ball and chain on the running game, see Carlos Beltran's steal #s or lack there of. I wanted Kaz in part because of his supposed running ability.


I dropped him a few days ago. Cleared waivers, sat in the FA pool for a day, and then someone picked him up (12 team league which uses MI spot also).

I think he's pretty much droppable, if there is someone decent out there (I'm using Counsell now).

Was that the one where you traded Brian Roberts for Kaz preseason? Oops :-D
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Postby d18Mike » Mon May 02, 2005 9:10 am

I'm a bit confused here ... everyone saw Kaz's stat line from last year. Scouts expected him to be just an average SS this year. I don't think I saw a fantasy service that rated him higher than mid-pack. Are folks surprised that he is less than average one month into the season? It hardly qualifies as a shocker.
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Postby slomo007 » Mon May 02, 2005 9:14 am

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slomo007 wrote:
Slump Busters wrote:I bought into all the hype and was happy to have him on my team, I have rarely used him and am considering dropping him. I know its early but I have not seen any "greatness" yet.

Plus I hear Randolpf has the ball and chain on the running game, see Carlos Beltran's steal #s or lack there of. I wanted Kaz in part because of his supposed running ability.


I dropped him a few days ago. Cleared waivers, sat in the FA pool for a day, and then someone picked him up (12 team league which uses MI spot also).

I think he's pretty much droppable, if there is someone decent out there (I'm using Counsell now).

Was that the one where you traded Brian Roberts for Kaz preseason? Oops :-D


Yep, it was. So basically I traded Brian Roberts away for nothing. :-b
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Postby MLBSTAR » Mon May 02, 2005 9:29 am

I think you guys are being a little to to harsh... Kaz has hit safely in 9 of the last 10 games and it isnt his fualt that no one is hitting him in or that he is getting no RBI opps. If he was allowed to steal Im sure he would have about 8 SB by now...... Give the guy a break.
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Postby Darkie Satchels » Mon May 02, 2005 9:53 am

MLBSTAR wrote:I think you guys are being a little to to harsh... Kaz has hit safely in 9 of the last 10 games and it isnt his fualt that no one is hitting him in or that he is getting no RBI opps. If he was allowed to steal Im sure he would have about 8 SB by now...... Give the guy a break.


I agree. As much as I want to drop him, the SS/2B combo and lack there of on the wire permitt me to sit tight. I think he is going to be great still this year and seems to be climbing out of his issues. It's just too bad he plays for such an unforgiving coast. :-D
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Postby slomo007 » Mon May 02, 2005 11:31 am

When (if) I see the Mets being more aggressive on the basepaths, it will be time to pick him up. Until then, he's a terrible option as even his own city doesn't like him (understandably). It's only a matter of time until he's either dropped in the order or benched outright for Cairo IMO.
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Postby Amazinz » Mon May 02, 2005 11:42 am

I think Mets fans' dislike of Kaz is a little different than the fantasy perspective. As far as fantasy goes Kaz hasn't been that bad. He's not a top tier 2B/SS but I don't really think anyone expected that. Going into drafts you could get him reasonably late, could get reasonable numbers for a 2B and anything he produced above that would be a bonus. So I'm not sure what the fantasy gripe is about Kaz. I think Mets fans on the other hand are just growing tired of the soap opera that has been Kaz ever since he came over from Japan.
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Postby slomo007 » Mon May 02, 2005 11:50 am

Amazinz wrote:I think Mets fans' dislike of Kaz is a little different than the fantasy perspective. As far as fantasy goes Kaz hasn't been that bad. He's not a top tier 2B/SS but I don't really think anyone expected that. Going into drafts you could get him reasonably late, could get reasonable numbers for a 2B and anything he produced above that would be a bonus. So I'm not sure what the fantasy gripe is about Kaz. I think Mets fans on the other hand are just growing tired of the soap opera that has been Kaz ever since he came over from Japan.


The fantasy gripe about Kaz (and all Mets thus far) is that he has the potential to steal 20-30 bases, and Willie "Brakes" Randolph won't allow it because he enjoys losing the close games.
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Postby Amazinz » Mon May 02, 2005 11:55 am

At this point last year Kaz had 1 SB, this year he has 2 SBs. Not sure what you're expecting from Kaz but he is "on pace". :-D

I think the main reason for the lack of steal attempts for the Mets has been situational.
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