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Postby TheYanks04 » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:49 am

Graves is not that bad. He will get saves with a 3.8-4.3 ERA.

Bad is Chacon...bad is Rhodes...bad is Pollitte...bad is HERGES.

Herges is not a viable option. I rather leave a spot open on my roster than pitch Herges.

As to has been brutally bad and last I heard was not doing great in the minors. They need to go get a Julio or Urbina or Mesa or yes, Danny Graves. None of these guys are Gagne, but they are at least MLB pitchers that can close out a game with an ERA under 6.
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Postby d18Mike » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:56 am

What Quicksilver said .... It's unlikely that the Tigers would trade Uggy while they are still "in the hunt."

They are trying unsucessfully to use the Twins formula (the starter gets you through six and 3 rocket arms take over) but need three semi-studs (Farnsworth?, Urbina and Percy) to pull it off.

Trading Uggy would mean abandoning the team's core pitching strategy because there is no one in the organization to take his place. I'm sure the Tigers would do it if the price were right. But that price would be high.

Message to Giants: Urbina is not that good.
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Postby unclepaulie » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:00 am

What about Jerome Williams? Is he even an option?
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Postby slomo007 » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:41 am

I wouldn't even think about Graves. Cincy is in a weak division this year and is easily capable of placing 2nd (and hoping for the WC). I don't think Graves will be traded until late in the year, if at all.
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Postby stumpak » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:56 am

Brower came in for the last 2 batters last night. Granted, it was with a 7 run lead, so it is not much of a barometer.
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Postby gabenterprises » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:37 am

I think throwing Williams out there was an astute idea. Though I've not heard about it as a possibility, it makes sense to me. He seems like an ideal closer too. Call Felipe.
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Postby rmeesig » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:54 pm

The Yankees have a severe overcrowding situation developing in their bullpen. Expect them to move someone (Gordon?) soon.
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Postby Cleveland Steamers » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:59 pm

i have no idea what theyll do. i need some info as im a benitez owner. someone already picked up herges, but i dont want that scumbag anyway...he is terrible. hopefully something comes to a head soon.
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Postby TownDrunk » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:00 pm

Let me try to address everyone’s suggestions:

Aardsma is in AA as a starter to work on his off speed pitches. He’s been dominating, but he still isn’t ready for the big leagues right now. Same goes for Valdez.

Foppert has been having some problems of his own, specifically a blister. It’s doubtful he’ll get called up soon.

Last year the Tigers wanted Matt Cain and another prospect. I can only imagine what they want this year. That isn’t going to happen.

Julio may be a possibility, but would he better than what they have now? Not much.

Williams was sent down to work on his control problems. So no, I don’t think they’ll be bringing him up to close.

If they really wanted to convert a starter into a closer, which I don’t believe will happen, it would most likely be Tomko since he’s usually pretty good the first time through the order and he has gas.

All indications/speculation today is that it will be Brower and Fassero. Fassero because he has some experience closing out games.

I believe that they’ll take a wait and see approach to this. They’ll see how they can get by with a CBC. And when Bonds returns, they’ll gauge at how well both he and the team are doing. If Bonds returns to his pre-surgery form (which I don’t believe will happen) and they feel the team has a shot, then I believe they’ll go out and trade for a closer rather than a CF as has been previously speculated. If they feel the team doesn’t have a shot, then they won’t be trading any of their pitching prospects.

But for now, it’s going to be a wait and see approach.
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Postby stevethumb » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:26 pm

well written for a towndrunk ..nicely done :)
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