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Postby nmarq8 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:58 am

i own all of these guys on at least one team or another and i just want to know who you guys think will have the most promising year...

kazmir
haren
patterson
lowry
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Postby bleach168 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:28 am

Patterson - Great arm. I'm still wary of how he is going to handle adversity.
Kazmir - Brightest future of this bunch. I would have him #1 if he pitched in the same league as Patterson.




Haren - Walks way too many hitters and is very bad at holding runners. He's going to be very mediocre until he solves those two problems.




Lowry - Stinks.
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Postby NZF » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:37 am

Patterson is the only guy I would have on my roster in a standard sized league.

Haren will do OK but I would only spot start him.

Kazmir is way overhyped and we are now seeing how average Lowry really is.
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Postby ocmusicjunkie » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:51 am

Patterson is more or less a fluke. He'll be a FA in every league by June, at the latest.

Kazmir is a great talent, but is going to hurt your whip until he gets a handle on his control. He also won't pick up that many wins with TB.

Haren is the real deal. Not as much raw talent as Kaz, but he's going to have a better year. I have him in all my leagues. Everyone seemed REALLY high on him until his last start.
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Postby morfheas » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:23 am

ocmusicjunkie wrote:Patterson is more or less a fluke. He'll be a FA in every league by June, at the latest.

Kazmir is a great talent, but is going to hurt your whip until he gets a handle on his control. He also won't pick up that many wins with TB.

Haren is the real deal. Not as much raw talent as Kaz, but he's going to have a better year. I have him in all my leagues. Everyone seemed REALLY high on him until his last start.


Patterson was lights out in winter ball and now hes pretty much lights out after 4 very quality starts. I wouldn't call that a fluke!!
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Postby mcmahojl » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:58 am

ocmusicjunkie wrote:Patterson is more or less a fluke. He'll be a FA in every league by June, at the latest.

Kazmir is a great talent, but is going to hurt your whip until he gets a handle on his control. He also won't pick up that many wins with TB.

Haren is the real deal. Not as much raw talent as Kaz, but he's going to have a better year. I have him in all my leagues. Everyone seemed REALLY high on him until his last start.


As much as I would like to say that the above post had no bias...you have a picture of the freaking guy as your avatar! Look at his numbers vs. the numbers of the other guys. Not necessarily just April. Lowry is clearly on the bottom of this list, but Patterson has to be on the top. PLUS, Haren's team seems to have a problem scoring runs, thus making wins for a mediocre rookie even more scarce. Patterson's team cant seem to stop winning.

My vote= Patterson.........Kaz, Haren.............Lowry
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Postby Darkie Satchels » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:31 am

Yeah - I go Patterson without a doubt. Fluke my arse. This kid is for real.
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Postby slomo007 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:35 am

Patterson, the others aren't really worth a spot. Haren is worth keeping an eye on, but Lowry and Kazmir are not coming anywhere near my rosters.
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:06 pm

Right now, Patterson first and Kaz 2nd.

As for Haren and Lowry, I think both will be there by the end of the season. But, for now, they are taking their lumps.

As for Lowry, take away his start at Coors, and he has a 3.63 ERA and 1.38 WHIP - and if he can bring his walks back to the 3 BB/9 IP he had last year, the WHIP will drop as well. Not great, but definitely not a scab as some seem to think.
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