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by morfheas » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:21 am
I said it before and I will say it again!!!
Hes the real thing!!!
Those BBs are decieving considering that three of them were intentional walks. So he is pitching very very well.
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by Drunken Rhino » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:09 am
He won't be able to carry a pitching staff no, but he is a very solid #4-#5 option on a staff. He should put up comparable numbers to guys like Myers & Cl. Lee IMO.
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by slomo007 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:21 am
morfheas wrote:I said it before and I will say it again!!!
Hes the real thing!!!
Those BBs are decieving considering that three of them were intentional walks. So he is pitching very very well.
Thanks for that information, I didn't get to watch the game and didn't realize that. That makes me feel MUCH better. He IS for real.

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by logan » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:36 am
slomo007 wrote:morfheas wrote:I said it before and I will say it again!!!
Hes the real thing!!!
Those BBs are decieving considering that three of them were intentional walks. So he is pitching very very well.
Thanks for that information, I didn't get to watch the game and didn't realize that. That makes me feel MUCH better. He IS for real.

not to mention that the strike zone in last nights game was tiny. lieber is a 50/50 guy on first pitch strikes to balls. the first 5 batters he faced his first pitch was a ball every time. nost of them looked to be strikes. patterson stared down the ump a couple times and so did some of the hitters as well. his bigest ball pitch seemed to be his fastball which was rising on him last night (nice pitch though when people swung . struck out utley on three 3 straight) and his breaking ball (which was nasty when it was over the plate) . it was down and inside sometimes against leafties (abreau and thome got a couple of those pitches). i watched him till he left and he pitchede well enough after the first for myself to be comfortable to start him till he gets blwn up a few starts in a row.
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by slomo007 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:42 am
logan wrote:slomo007 wrote:morfheas wrote:I said it before and I will say it again!!!
Hes the real thing!!!
Those BBs are decieving considering that three of them were intentional walks. So he is pitching very very well.
Thanks for that information, I didn't get to watch the game and didn't realize that. That makes me feel MUCH better. He IS for real.

not to mention that the strike zone in last nights game was tiny. lieber is a 50/50 guy on first pitch strikes to balls. the first 5 batters he faced his first pitch was a ball every time. nost of them looked to be strikes. patterson stared down the ump a couple times and so did some of the hitters as well. his bigest ball pitch seemed to be his fastball which was rising on him last night (nice pitch though when people swung . struck out utley on three 3 straight) and his breaking ball (which was nasty when it was over the plate) . it was down and inside sometimes against leafties (abreau and thome got a couple of those pitches). i watched him till he left and he pitchede well enough after the first for myself to be comfortable to start him till he gets blwn up a few starts in a row.
I watched his last start (vs Atlanta)...and he seemed to throw a 2 seam fastball or something simlar on the outside part of the plate to a LOT of hitters....it really reminded me of how Tim Hudson throws. I like that style of pitching because it's extremely hard to get ahold of a sinking fastball on the outside. Thanks for the info, good to hear his breaking ball was working well...I didn't notice it much last time. I do think he was using a slider in that game.

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by logan » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:50 am
yeah he outed an inning of utley ,bell and lieber with the breaking ball. he got utley looking bell fanned HARD and well lieber just watched it as well. utley just stood there a second and just walked off. it made me laugh. he seemed to work alot of the plate and was up higha dn low so he had som e decent placement . some were off the plate and some werent that were called balls anyway. i htink thats first inning hiccup would have been averted had he gotten a call against thome that put him in the whole.
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by slomo007 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:53 am
logan wrote:yeah he outed an inning of utley ,bell and lieber with the breaking ball. he got utley looking bell fanned HARD and well lieber just watched it as well. utley just stood there a second and just walked off. it made me laugh. he seemed to work alot of the plate and was up higha dn low so he had som e decent placement . some were off the plate and some werent that were called balls anyway. i htink thats first inning hiccup would have been averted had he gotten a call against thome that put him in the whole.
If he can stay healthy, he's going to be a tremendous pitcher this year. Let's just hope he stays healthy. Thanks for the info.

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