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Postby wavetide007 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:38 pm

The guy just looks so in tune at the plate, this year I predict .335 with 38 homers!

JACQUE JONES BABY


I smell beltre-like #s and beltre like year (2004)
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Postby looptid » Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:57 pm

The fact that his K/BB is 8/8 right now is encouraging. So far in his career he's been one of the least disciplined players in the majors, with truly horrible strikezone judgement. How long that lasts is anyone's guess.

Maybe he's finally developed some concept of the strikezone and is looking at a career year. It would be hard for him to be as bad as he was last season. Beltre numbers seem like a huge reach, but he could turn out to be a decent fantasy outfielder.
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Postby Krunk City King$ » Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:23 pm

looptid wrote:The fact that his K/BB is 8/8 right now is encouraging. So far in his career he's been one of the least disciplined players in the majors, with truly horrible strikezone judgement. How long that lasts is anyone's guess.

Maybe he's finally developed some concept of the strikezone and is looking at a career year. It would be hard for him to be as bad as he was last season. Beltre numbers seem like a huge reach, but he could turn out to be a decent fantasy outfielder.


so far he only has 8 strike outs in 2005. last season he had 117.


:-?

i was poisoned by his numbers last season. he hit .252. i saw his hot start and looked up his numbers last week....and i did not know that they were that good. they are around the .280 mark.

this season it looks like he will get back to 2003 form. not too bad for a guy that is still on waivers in my league:





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Year Team G AB H 2B 3B HR RBI R BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1999 MIN 95 322 93 24 2 9 44 54 17 63 3 4 .289 .324 .460 .784
2000 MIN 154 523 149 26 5 19 76 66 26 111 7 5 .285 .319 .463 .781
2001 MIN 149 475 131 25 0 14 49 57 39 92 12 9 .276 .331 .417 .748
2002 MIN 149 577 173 37 2 27 85 96 37 129 6 7 .300 .341 .511 .852
2003 MIN 136 517 157 33 1 16 69 76 21 105 13 1 .304 .333 .464 .797
2004 MIN 151 555 141 22 1 24 80 69 40 117 13 10 .254 .315 .427 .742
2005 MIN 15 50 20 4 1 3 13 7 8 8 1 1 .400 .500 .700 1.200




MINOR LEAGUE BATTING STATS
Year Team G AB R H HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
1996 A-FT. MYERS 1 3 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 .667 1.000 .667
1997 A-FT. MYERS 131 539 84 160 15 82 33 110 24 12 .340 .464 .297
1998 AA-NEW BRITAIN 134 518 78 155 21 85 37 134 18 11 .349 .508 .299
1999 AAA-SALT LAKE 52 198 32 59 4 26 9 36 9 2 .325 .444 .298
TOTALS: 318 1258 194 376 40 194 79 280 51 26 .339 .480 .299
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Postby warrick95 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:51 pm

A lot of the buzz with Jones' potential fantasy-wise comes in the fact that he's a pretty fast guy. With good power, it's obviously resulted in many comparisons to other potential 40/40 players, like Beltran lately and Guerrero in the past (Guerrero's actually another player who was never all that effective stealing bases). However, he's just never picked up the art of basestealing. As you can see by his SB/CS numbers (lifetime 55/37), Jones just isn't very good at stealing bases.

Anyway, the contract year thing is valid in some situations, but not in others. Jones is having a solid season power and plate-discipline wise, but that still wouldn't make him anything more than a #3 or so OF AT BEST. He'd need to have great speed to make him a better option. Gardenhire has given the green light to Hunter, but not to Jacque, who's 1/2 in SB attempts. It doesn't bode well for him that his manager isn't running him much (esp. with Morneau out of the lineup earlier). It doesn't appear like he's made any progress in that department lately anyway.
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Postby wavetide007 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:56 pm

GUys guys guys


he has as many strike outs as walks thus far



To get even 2002 #s, which were impressive, he would have to strikeout an inordinate amount of time between now and the end of the season....


in other words, he's going to have the greatest year of his career!
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Postby looptid » Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:00 pm

Krunk City King$ wrote:
looptid wrote:The fact that his K/BB is 8/8 right now is encouraging. So far in his career he's been one of the least disciplined players in the majors, with truly horrible strikezone judgement. How long that lasts is anyone's guess.

Maybe he's finally developed some concept of the strikezone and is looking at a career year. It would be hard for him to be as bad as he was last season. Beltre numbers seem like a huge reach, but he could turn out to be a decent fantasy outfielder.


so far he only has 8 strike outs in 2005. last season he had 117.


:-?

?!?
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Postby bd3521 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:03 pm

If anyone is wondering hes on pace for 76 K's if he some how keeps things up
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:03 pm

This is J. Jones in April every year.

Check out the splits.
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Postby wavetide007 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:10 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:This is J. Jones in April every year.

Check out the splits.
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NO!!!!


that counts 2005, which you sohuldn't do, since it's his best year ever.

April 2002 19k 9BB .306 = year end of .300 27 HR
April 2003 19k 3BB .326 = year end of .304 16 HR
April 2004 14k 5BB .329 = year end of .254 24 HR


THIS YEAR
April 2005 9k 9BB .396 = year end of .335 35-40HR
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:17 pm

wavetide007 wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:This is J. Jones in April every year.

Check out the splits.
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NO!!!!


that counts 2005, which you sohuldn't do, since it's his best year ever.

April 2002 19k 9BB .306 = year end of .300 27 HR
April 2003 19k 3BB .326 = year end of .304 16 HR
April 2004 14k 5BB .329 = year end of .254 24 HR


THIS YEAR
April 2005 9k 9BB .396 = year end of .335 35-40HR


Maybe he is being more selective but the track record is still there. He is fast out of the gate and wears down the longer the season goes on.
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