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by **MMoNeY24** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:06 pm

gostanford07 wrote:Dunno if he's top 5, but Livan is up there somewhere. He used to pinch hit for the Giants on occaison.

Forgot about Livan, he's good also.

by **go_jays_go** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:07 pm

Rick Ankiel also :-D

by **LBJackal** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:21 pm

I'd say the Cubs 1-2-3 pitchers are all pretty good hitters. Can't really think of any that aren't already listed, but I'll go have a look...

OK the best BA's for pitchers (not including 2005 #'s):

Jason Jennings: .257 (Plays in Coors field though)
Mike Hampton: .256 (Played in Coors as well)
Livan Hernandez: .242
Dontrelle Willis: .220

Zam is actually not that high on the list, but it's his 1/30 rookie season that drags him down.

Also, MS Access was acting kinda screwy so it might not be 100% accurate.

by **tomkatt** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:21 pm

With how bad the Braves are swinging their toothpicks lately, don't be surprised to see Hampton out in left for tomorrow's game. :-o

by **LBJackal** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:27 pm

Oh yeah and somebody that hasn't been mentioned that might be the best of them all: Brooks Kieschnick. He's sort of a combo RP/PH that used to be a hitting prospect but switched to being a pitcher a couple years ago. Had a .760 career OPS and spent the last 2 seasons as a relief pitcher for the Brewers. Jennings and Hampton's OPS are only about .650 and they played in Coors Field. Might not seem all that significant for Hampton since he only played 2 years in Colorado, but 10 of his 14 career HR's were hit palying for the Rockies.

by **bigjimblue** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:28 pm

Woody Williams and Babe Ruth

by **Turnip** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:29 pm

I second the Hudson thing, I have heard he is supposed to be good.

by **bleach168** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:43 am

Brandon Backe is a really good hitter.

He's 8 for 21 in his young career with a homer. He has a 1.077 OPS.

by **baseballnewb** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:47 am

Brooks Kieschnick and Wes Obermueller are both good hitters. No clue how they compare tot he others listed.

Kieschnick is lifetime 248 avg, 444 slg, 760 ops
Obermueller is lifetime 286 avg, 333 slg, 630 ops

Willis is lifetime 220 avg, 305 slg, 562 ops
Wood is lifetime 169 avg, 245 slg, 438 ops

by **reznorsboy** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:01 am

Brandon Backe should also be included in this group I think. Although he hasn't been around very long.

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