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Postby max01889 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:51 pm

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Postby CubsFan7724 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:03 pm

Zambrano. I may be a bit biased, but hes definitely more dominant than Hudson when hes on. Hes on most of the time, hes just been off to a rough start. Hes also better at home than on the road. 3.00 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 190 K. Zambrano is good. Trust me.
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Postby loophole21 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:03 pm

id take Zambrano. Similar ratios except, but C-Zam gets A LOT more K's.
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Postby wrigleyivy » Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:27 pm

Got to go with Hudson. Yea you give up Ks but I love his consistency. Each time out you expect a low ERA low whip and a good shot at a win. with zambrano he could be lights out or lit up
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Postby brandnew » Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:37 pm

Huddy's K's are coming to him. I think he'll end up with around 150. Check out his miniscule ERA... it's filthy.

He'll have a huge edge in ERA, little in WHIP, and you'll sacrifice around 40-50 K's. I'd take Huddy.
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Postby pokerplaya » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:04 pm

I'll take Hudson. The move to the NL, under Leo Mazzone is going to / has made him one of the best pitchers in the league.

Plus, the Cubbies really don't have the best track record (Mr. Baker) taking care of their pitchers, so while he hasn't showed any signs of breaking down yet it's always at the back of my mind - warranted or not.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:25 pm

brandnew wrote:Huddy's K's are coming to him. I think he'll end up with around 150. Check out his miniscule ERA... it's filthy.

He'll have a huge edge in ERA, little in WHIP, and you'll sacrifice around 40-50 K's. I'd take Huddy.

You honestly think hes going to have a huge edge in ERA? Why do you think that?
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Postby JustAnotherYanksFan » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:41 pm

You predicted a 3.00 ERA for Zambrano, and I think that's probably about right.

From '01-'03, Hudson's ERA averaged about 3 as well. (It may be worth noting that his ERA went down each year, from 3.37 to 2.98 to 2.70.) In 2004, he was injured, which probably accounts for his higher ERA (3.53).

But now that Hudson's in the NL, his ERA could drop to around 2.60 or so. That's a fairly significant difference. (Of course, if Zambrano's is 2.75 again, then it's not such a significant difference.) I would guess his WHIP would be a bit lower, maybe about 1.18 or so.

Based on what I'd project for each pitcher, I'd take Zambrano by a hair, since his K's will more than make up for the difference in ERA and WHIP. But I also feel like Hudson's just a bit safer, so I'd probably lean towards him. It totally depends on the situation, though - if my team needed strikeouts, then I'd obviously want Zambrano.
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Postby brandnew » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:44 pm

Hudson IMO will only get better as the season goes along. I think it's within his range to have a 2.5 ERA, while I see Zambrano having a 2.9 ERA or so.
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Postby zoozam » Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:14 pm

Just wanted to bring this one back out of the woodwork ... how does everyone vote now? Zambrano is the superior pitcher IMO by a pretty good margin ...

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