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Postby jayman » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:19 pm

1 ER over 5 but 8 hits and 2 BB!
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:20 pm

I started him in a few leagues tonight. The hits and walks don't help but it shows he was able to get out of jams with only giving up 1 ER. Not too happy b/c he got pulled w/o a chance to win it, but satisfied overall.
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Postby AznHisoka » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:24 pm

I started him in my H2H league as well. But I gotta see how he pitches against teams like the Yankees and Red Sox before I get excited over him as an option for the long term.
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Postby Pedantic » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:26 pm

He's still young, but I had him pegged as an ultra-sleeper. He was coming off of his first season after TJ surgery and was a highly regarded prospect before it. I don't expect a 1.50 ERA the whole season long, but I'll take it while I can.
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Postby NZF » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:28 pm

Very lucky to get out of that game without a loss.

He is not worth a roster spot in anything less than a 16 team league and should be used for spot starting when he's got a favourable match-up only.

He has got good stuff but very poor control so even if he pitches ok his regular high pitch count means he'll rarely go any deeper than 5 or 6 innings.
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Postby Eephus » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:29 pm

On the minus side, he had no 1-2-3 innings, he hurt your WHIP (and it was the Devil Rays).

But he got some big outs with runners in scoring position and got his 5 IP in. If the O's scored some runs, he'd be in position to pick up a W. Also, no extra base hits.

Things happen to young pitchers. No reason to overreact if you picked him up after his outing last week.
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Postby Conner » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:50 pm

New Zealand Fan wrote:Very lucky to get out of that game without a loss.

He is not worth a roster spot in anything less than a 16 team league and should be used for spot starting when he's got a favourable match-up only.

He has got good stuff but very poor control so even if he pitches ok his regular high pitch count means he'll rarely go any deeper than 5 or 6 innings.


He really doesn't have "very poor control".

It certainly wasn't good last year, but he was coming back from surgery, which almost always hurts a guys' control. He's never walked a ton of guys before last season.

1 walk in his first start (in 7 innings), 2 walks tonight. That's not bad.


Also:

How is he "Very lucky to get out of that game without a loss."?

He gave up 1 run in 5 innings.

He was pretty unlucky to not be in line for a win, with that offense behind him...
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Postby chadxor » Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:03 pm

16 team league? i call BS. i like to carry alot of pitchers and guys with some upside
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Postby NZF » Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:05 pm

Conner wrote:
How is he "Very lucky to get out of that game without a loss."?

He gave up 1 run in 5 innings.

He was pretty unlucky to not be in line for a win, with that offense behind him...


The Rays left 12 guys on base in the first two innings alone. That's not altogether good pitching and poor hitting, there's a large degree of luck in there as well.

With 8 hits and 2 walks in just 5 innings of work he was damn lucky to only give up 1 ER.

His control last year WAS VERY POOR. True, he was far batter in his season debut but his control again tonite was not good. He got behind a lot of hitters but was fortunate to make decent pitches when he needed to. It remains to be seen whether his control improves this season but I would doubt it improves greatly.
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Postby NZF » Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:09 pm

chadxor wrote:16 team league? i call BS. i like to carry alot of pitchers and guys with some upside


If you're playing in standard leagues that have IP maximums then what's the point :-?
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