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No earned runs for Brandon Lyon??

Postby chief knockohoma » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:49 am

Lyon gave up 4 runs last night. The way i see it 3 should be earned.

Am I missing something here?
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:51 am

Glaus muffed the third out. All runs scored after that are unearned.
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:59 am

GotowarMissAgnes wrote:Glaus muffed the third out. All runs scored after that are unearned.


Wow, that's pretty cheap. I guess he got a break.
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Postby chief knockohoma » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:04 am

Ok...thanks..it looks like it was the second out.
Philips flied out after, which means he would've been out of the inning.
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Postby Kelly Gruber » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:43 am

Still doesn't take away from his horrible performance after the game should have been over! I'm holding on to Valverde to get the job eventually; I remember when he was their "closer of the future" when Matt Mantei was their closer. Granted, he didn't ptich so well last year, but IMO all it takes is a month of good relief pitching when he comes off the DL, or less, until he becomes the closer...Both Aquino and Lyon do not have the stuff to be closers...
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Postby great gretzky » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:55 pm

valverde and mantei seem to be made up of sawdust and bubble gum. you don't play your way into a spot then get demoted after a bad outing. lyon won't keep it all year, but it isn't like aquino or valverde are some hard core proven commodities anyway.
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Postby Darkie Satchels » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:37 pm

MMoNeY24 wrote:
GotowarMissAgnes wrote:Glaus muffed the third out. All runs scored after that are unearned.


Wow, that's pretty cheap. I guess he got a break.


Yeah, but when you are banking a MR/RP quadfecta like I am with 4 bullpen players combined to rack up some cheap points, you are already seen as a shadey bastard by your friends :-D
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Postby Rohan » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:31 am

I don't see why Lyon is put down so much. And i can see him closing games the rest of the season. Bob Melvin loves this guy.

If/when Valverde pitches well, doesn't mean Lyon is out. If Lyon does well, like he has, he'll have the role all season.

He was in the Curt Schilling trade, guess that means he sucks.
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Postby LBJackal » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:39 am

Lyon isn't that good... if he's closing all year the D'Backs will be in big trouble. I'd be really surprised if Valverde or if the nerve injury isn't too serious - Aquino, don't take over within a month or two.
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Postby asumikey222 » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:43 am

LBJackal wrote:Lyon isn't that good... if he's closing all year the D'Backs will be in big trouble. I'd be really surprised if Valverde or if the nerve injury isn't too serious - Aquino, don't take over within a month or two.


It's not like they're in substantially less "trouble" with Aquino or Valverde either. Lyon will be fine; we won the WS with B. freaking Kim for crying out loud (granted he had a great regular season, but talk about a guy you don't want to depend on- he is the textbook example).
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