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Postby Sp_Da_Man » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:08 am

I'm looking at the stat lines for Chacin & Towers from the last two games:

Gustavo Chacin 5 IP, 3 HA, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 SO, W

Josh Towers 6 IP, 4 HA, 1 ER, 0 BB, 6 SO, No Dec (bullpen blew lead)


Do these guys have some upside or potential or was it a case of them pitching against Tampa Bay?
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:13 am

It was Tampa. Bush is our best after Halladay IMO. I think Lilly's gonna get rocked against Boston partially because he's rusty, and partially because he's not good.

Chacin isn't that good, and Towers can be good but has to keep his K's at 5+ per 9 IP while still walking less than 2 per 9.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:15 am

Remember that Chacin shut down the Yankees in NY in his ML debut last year? That being said he could also crash and burn on any day. He could be great or terrible, he's a little flakey at this point in his career.

Stay away from Towers. The man you should be targetting in Bush. Very solid youngster who may not get a lot of wins but will put up decent ratios to help you in a deep or AL-only league.
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Postby Sp_Da_Man » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:11 am

So how would you rank them?

Bush

Chacin

Towers
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Postby WhiteSoxs » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:32 am

chacin is a chump bush and towers are good ;-D
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Postby bronxxbomber » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:34 am

i'd be scared to own chacin. anyone ever see him pitch? doesn't he look like he's about to break his arm on every pitch:-o :-o :-o ???
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Postby reznorsboy » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:37 am

I'm going to the Game on Sunday so I will get to see Chacin first hand and see what he is all about. I also get to see Matt Clement and sit and wonder if he would have got the win in the cubs second game against Arizona.
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Postby WhiteSoxs » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:55 am

i seen chacin pitch, hes horrible.
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Postby LBJackal » Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:44 am

Chacin is so aweful that he was 19-2 last year with a 2.80 ERA and 1.15 WHIP between the minors and majors. I know he's not great but you have to give him some credit. Seeing him pitch once and not liking it doesn't mean much unless you're a scout which I really doubt you are.
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Postby thehat » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:44 am

Chacin is interesting. A prospect five years ago, but never got any better. He learned to throw a cutter last year, and has been very effective ever since. I'm still real leery, but you can't argue results. Might be worth rostering deep leagues until he crashes and burns. And who knows, maybe he won't.

Bush is the most reliable of this trio. He'll likely never be more than a middle of the rotation type, but he's got a sound arm and decent command. No reason he can't win a dozen with a low 4 ERA.

Towers has less than average big league stuff and can only survive with pinpoint control. I would urge staying away.
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