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Postby quietstorm » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:37 pm

From the "Quick Cuts" section of Will Carroll's latest column:

A Cubs player told me "Javier Vazquez didn’t just have no curve, he might as well have put what was coming on the Jumbotron." That’s actually good news since it’s correctable
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:39 pm

Would match with Rotoworld saying he thought he was tipping his pitches. I'm not a Vazquez owner, but for their sake, I hope this is the case.
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Postby agchris02 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:20 pm

Im curious as what cubs player said "Vazquez didnt just have no curve"

Thats about as good as English as I expect from an illeterate, redneck, two year old
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:26 pm

Most baseball players don't go to school past high school, and for foreign players who knows. Not to mention the majority of players in all professional sports seem to have trouble being grammatically correct.

And, BTW, it is "illiterate".
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Postby nola » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:29 pm

Actually that is fine gramatically. It looks strange in print, but when said aloud, there would likely be an emphasis on "just" and/or "no."

"He didn't JUST have NO curve,"

Don't be so tough on people.
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Postby BigMusky » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:35 pm

yee haw!!!!!!!!!
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Postby KolbSaves » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:38 pm

nola wrote:Actually that is fine gramatically. It looks strange in print, but when said aloud, there would likely be an emphasis on "just" and/or "no."

"He didn't JUST have NO curve,"

Don't be so tough on people.

Actually, no.

It should be "He just didn't have any curve"
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:38 pm

Actually, it is a double negative, which means that the "didn't" and the "no" negate and he was effectively saying Vazquez had his curve - which was not what I believe he was trying to say. So, in effect, he said one thing that meant another. I'd say that was grammatically incorrect.

He should have just said "Vazquez didn't have his curve."

Again, I'm not picking on the guy as I hold athletes to lower standards in general. And I agree it wasn't the worst thing as, when spoken, it probably sounded better than in print. But it is tough to argue that "he just didn't have no curve" is grammatically correct written or spoken.

And the point is, it appears he was tipping his pitches. Maybe he can fix it.
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Postby Dans » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:41 pm

I agree with nola (as stupid as this is). The question was "so he had no curve?"

The answer was "He didn't JUST have no curve" as in, in addition to having no curve, he was also tipping his pitches.
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Postby yellowdog » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:44 pm

Actually, I think he meant to say, "he didn't JUST have 'no curve'", implying there was more to the problem than just a lack of a curve ball, thus making it almost acceptable English. :-?
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