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Postby madstork43 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:36 pm

we have seven prospect spots for my keeper league...

any help or insight on my up and coming players for my team?

12 team h2h keeper league with seven minor league prospect spots
here is my roster...

C J. Kendall (Oak - C)
1B D. Lee (ChC - 1B)
2B M. Giles (Atl - 2B)
3B A. Ramirez (ChC - 3B)
SS E. Renteria (Bos - SS)
OF B. Abreu (Phi - OF)
OF B. Giles (SD - OF)
OF V. Guerrero (LAA - OF)
Util P. Konerko (CWS - 1B)
BN J. Jones (Min - OF)
BN C. Blake (Cle - 3B)

SP C. Zambrano (ChC - SP)
SP J. Beckett (Fla - SP)
RP J. Isringhausen (StL - RP)
RP B. Ryan (Bal - RP)
P C. Carpenter (StL - SP)
P F. Garcia (CWS - SP)
P Ja. Wright (NYY - SP)
BN W. Williams (SD - SP)
BN M. Adams (Mil - RP)
BN B. Lyon (AZ - RP)
BN D. Wells (Bos - SP)
BN R. Lopez (Bal - SP,RP)
BN J. Williams (SF - SP)
BN D. Bush (Tor - SP)
DL W. MillerDL (Bos - SP)

prospects:
Jeff Allison, Marlins
Ryan Garko, Indians
Jeremy Hermida, Marlins
Dustin McGowan, Blue Jays
Matt Moses, Twins
Guillermo Quiroz, Blue Jays
Adam Wainwright, Cardinals

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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:13 pm

Jeff Allison, Marlins - battling a pain-killer addiction. Not in the Marlins system. Drop.

Ryan Garko, Indians - trapped behind VMart. Is at AAA, but can't see how great a prospect he might be (Cleveland's #8 according to BA). I'd think you could do better.

Jeremy Hermida, Marlins - very good prospect. At AA this year. Keep.

Dustin McGowan, Blue Jays - coming off surgery. Likely won't be full strength until 2006. Again, I'd think you could do better. But a good P prospect before he got hurt.

Matt Moses, Twins - know very little about him. Played at low-A last year and has been injury-prone. Once again, I'd think you could do better.

Guillermo Quiroz, Blue Jays - good C prospect. Keep.

Adam Wainwright, Cardinals - not high on him. Coming off surgery, but is supposedly healthy. At AAA and likely not the 1st name StL would call on if a player needed (A. Reyes). Like a broken record - I'd think you could do better.

I say I'd think you could do better only because I don't know how many other top prospects are kept. Doing stupid math, 12 teams and 7 prospects means 84 prospects. Without knowing how many of BA's Top 100 (or Fox's or whomever's) are being kept as salaried players (e.g. Upton, Mauer), I would still be surprised if you had to go much below 120 or so. That you have a low-A player shows that you can gamble a little. But you should be looking at players like Stewart, Marte, A Miller, J Guzman, Young, Milledge, F. Hernandez, C. Nelson, Francoeur, etc. rather than 5 of the guys you currently have.
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Postby madstork43 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:15 pm

thanks for the time you took for the insight...

i am going to adjust my prospect roster and see how i do

thanks again
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Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:24 am

Dawgpound 1613 wrote:Jeff Allison, Marlins - battling a pain-killer addiction. Not in the Marlins system. Drop.

Ryan Garko, Indians - trapped behind VMart. Is at AAA, but can't see how great a prospect he might be (Cleveland's #8 according to BA). I'd think you could do better.

Jeremy Hermida, Marlins - very good prospect. At AA this year. Keep.

Dustin McGowan, Blue Jays - coming off surgery. Likely won't be full strength until 2006. Again, I'd think you could do better. But a good P prospect before he got hurt.

Matt Moses, Twins - know very little about him. Played at low-A last year and has been injury-prone. Once again, I'd think you could do better.

Guillermo Quiroz, Blue Jays - good C prospect. Keep.

Adam Wainwright, Cardinals - not high on him. Coming off surgery, but is supposedly healthy. At AAA and likely not the 1st name StL would call on if a player needed (A. Reyes). Like a broken record - I'd think you could do better.

I say I'd think you could do better only because I don't know how many other top prospects are kept. Doing stupid math, 12 teams and 7 prospects means 84 prospects. Without knowing how many of BA's Top 100 (or Fox's or whomever's) are being kept as salaried players (e.g. Upton, Mauer), I would still be surprised if you had to go much below 120 or so. That you have a low-A player shows that you can gamble a little. But you should be looking at players like Stewart, Marte, A Miller, J Guzman, Young, Milledge, F. Hernandez, C. Nelson, Francoeur, etc. rather than 5 of the guys you currently have.




good analysis, but i have to disagree on garko... the guy can absolutely destroy a baseball.... he is trapped behind vmart and hafner now but if broussard struggles he might get a chance there.... i think he is a very good prospect to have in such a deep league....people that hits the way he does, will be found a spot in the majors somewhere..... but i would look to replace moses and allison for sure.....
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:55 am

I know what you're saying on Garko - however, being trapped at two positions by young players to me isn't a good sign. I just think of Jason Lane - proved he could hit but was trapped and only now getting his first chance. To some extent, Jack Cust, though he couldn't play defense. Another one right now is Ryan Howard. I guess I just prefer players with no real obstacles.

And with 12 teams and 7 prospects, I guess my opinion is that it really isn't a deep prospect league. My longest league I've been in is a 10 year old league, 35 players, AL only. That's a deep league and Garko was kept. But we have close to 100 prospects from the AL only. I'm probably wrong here about it not being a deep league, but maybe my opinion is skewed because of my main league.
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Postby io » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:25 am

I would keep Garko, just like anybody in their right mind would keep Howard... sure, their situations suck, but they are still great great hitters and since most prospects are gambles anyway, theres nothing wrong with holding onto them, especially if your league lets you keep them safe for as long as you want. if Garko ever found a spot to play, it would be worth it

Hermida and Garko are your 2 best prospects.. baseball america is a sham sometimes
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:30 am

Look, I'm not arguing that Garko isn't a good hitter, but there are a lot of good hitters who get stuck in the minors based on less than stellar defense and/or an unfortunate situation of being blocked at the major league level. Garko, IMHO, is one of them. I have yet to read anywhere that he's even average behind the plate. That makes it unlikely he'll unseat VMart. They have Hafner, who has proven himself at the major league level - something Garko hasn't (but hasn't gotten the chance either, I admit). So, barring a trade, where does he play? I guess I've had too many prospects get "stuck" in a situation like this to offer advice to someone to keep just such a player.

I agree that Garko is in the Top 120 or so of prospects. But this league goes 84 deep. Can he find a better prospect than Garko? I don't know, but my guess is yes (hence the "I'd think you could do better" comments). Can he do worse? Definitely. But, if it were me, I'd drop Garko and see about someone else, such as Brian McCann, if I were looking for a C prospect. He's at AA and only has Estrada ahead of him - and Estrada's defense is a joke such that, when ready, McCann will be the C in Atlanta and Estrada will be moved/traded. But if he can't find someone better, he can go ahead and pick-up Garko again.

As for Ryan Howard, if I had him, I'd keep him. But I also suspect he'll be traded by the AS break to a team that will give him a chance. Maybe Garko will get traded as well. But hoping for trades or injuries isn't my m.o. I'd rather have prospects that are so good they'll force teams to move other players on their behalf - or that have few obstacles in their way. Garko doesn't fall into that class for me. But if you'd keep him, great. That's what makes the fantasy world go round - different opinions.
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Postby io » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:30 pm

to me, Garko is a top 50 prospect or better. i bet BA has him #8 in the system because he's blocked.. dropping him for this is foolish in my oppinion. he can drop someone else for McCann or whoever
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Postby hybrid » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:58 am

Don't over look Moses. His season was cut short last year but the kid has a great bat, he is my sleeper/break out prospect for the Twins.
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Postby Jivedude » Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:02 am

hybrid wrote:Don't over look Moses. His season was cut short last year but the kid has a great bat, he is my sleeper/break out prospect for the Twins.


He just hit two Hrs in a double header. He looks good so far.
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