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Postby raiders_umpire » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:24 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:
raiders_umpire wrote:guess it is not so bad in the ole US of A then is it ;-)


Maybe you should set your sights a little higher. Saying that you have a better human rights record than China is not saying a lot.


:-? :-? huh.... not comparing our record to china at all.... just saying that some of the media complain about abuses and such here in the USA(and yes there is some) but dang it would absolutely suck to be in china....
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:35 pm

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raiders_umpire wrote:guess it is not so bad in the ole US of A then is it ;-)


Maybe you should set your sights a little higher. Saying that you have a better human rights record than China is not saying a lot.


agreed - but at the same time these human rights abuses around the world are rarely given the spotlight in the media, whereas US abuses of human rights seem to be on every major international press outlet.

As an American, it gets frusterating.


Not so sure about that CBM :-?

American press has close to zero international news coverage. So to say that the US press does not focus on international human rights issues is fair but I guess that you have nobody to blame but yourselves.

Having lived in the Netherlands and Canada and never in the US, I can tell you from my experience that the US does not get any additional attention than any other country. Europeans are just as self-centred as any other developed country. The oil-wars have changed that but there have been very few issues that have so polarized the world.

Americans sure do have a martyr complex. It's the richest nation in the world but it rarely looks outside its own boundaries unless its own interests are at stake. It has a history of pretty sucky isolationism but at the same time wants to be loved by the international community like Don Corleon. I realize that its a catch-22 and other nations are going to hate you no matter what you do but please don't cry about it.


I guess you are right, mookie - I rarely see international news outside of BBC and Canadian coverage. I guess my impressions are mostly based on the leftwing mass-media we get here in the states. ;-)


Oh you mean the Cathoic Church Right Wing Media?

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Postby Madison » Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:09 am

I'd much rather be here in the U.S.A. :-)
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Postby blankman » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:09 am

acsguitar wrote:
Cornbread Maxwell wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:
Cornbread Maxwell wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:
raiders_umpire wrote:guess it is not so bad in the ole US of A then is it ;-)


Maybe you should set your sights a little higher. Saying that you have a better human rights record than China is not saying a lot.


agreed - but at the same time these human rights abuses around the world are rarely given the spotlight in the media, whereas US abuses of human rights seem to be on every major international press outlet.

As an American, it gets frusterating.


Not so sure about that CBM :-?

American press has close to zero international news coverage. So to say that the US press does not focus on international human rights issues is fair but I guess that you have nobody to blame but yourselves.

Having lived in the Netherlands and Canada and never in the US, I can tell you from my experience that the US does not get any additional attention than any other country. Europeans are just as self-centred as any other developed country. The oil-wars have changed that but there have been very few issues that have so polarized the world.

Americans sure do have a martyr complex. It's the richest nation in the world but it rarely looks outside its own boundaries unless its own interests are at stake. It has a history of pretty sucky isolationism but at the same time wants to be loved by the international community like Don Corleon. I realize that its a catch-22 and other nations are going to hate you no matter what you do but please don't cry about it.


I guess you are right, mookie - I rarely see international news outside of BBC and Canadian coverage. I guess my impressions are mostly based on the leftwing mass-media we get here in the states. ;-)


Oh you mean the Cathoic Church Right Wing Media?


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