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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:56 pm

http://rotoworld.com/content/story.asp? ... ryid=11689

Now, just look at the comments on park factors. First, any idiot should be able to tell at a glance that these are wrong, and do some checking up. Second, in trying to make sense of them, he shows that he has NO idea of how park factors are created.

If this is the type of person rotoworld is relying on to provide analysis, I'd stay far away from anything on there!


(BTW, anyone that has played around on the ESPN site the last two months knows that their stats are completely screwed up. About half the time, it gives incorrect information).
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Postby willieroe » Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:08 pm

From the article:

Best AL parks for hitters/worst for pitchers – KC, MIN, TEX, CHW
Best NL parks for hitters/worst for pitchers – COL, STL, PIT, HOU

Best AL parks for pitchers/worst for hitters – OAK, LAA, SEA, DET
Best NL parks for pitchers/worst for hitters – AZ, ATL, LAD, SD


These look about right to me (without looking at last year's numbers, admittedly.)

Bank One Ballpark as a pitcher’s park? It was last year, but that could be an aberration due to the Triple-A lineup the D’Backs were trotting out every day, plus the fact they had this guy named Johnson.

Similarly, don’t necessarily think that if you have hitters going into St. Louis that they’re going to have a good week. That park’s high hitter rating has more to do with being the home of Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, and Co. Not a bad idea to reserve your mid-range starters there, though. Cardinal starters? They have an intrinsic benefit just in the fact they never face their own teammates during the season.


Yeah, these two paragraphs are pretty clueless. :-P :-t
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Postby Mustangs989 » Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:14 pm

AZ isn't even their worst screw up, Kauffman Stadium(Royals) is one of the worst hitting parks in the league since they moved their fences. Busch is also more of a pitchers park, and HOU and MIN fields are both closer to neutral. All of these are according to the Bill James Handbook and you can find them here ;-D
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:15 pm

I don't know much about how to calculate them, but I thought you only took visiting teams stats when calculating parking effects? That way poor lineups don't hurt it as much...
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:16 pm

STL and Pitt, as best parks for hitters?

AZ as best park for pitchers?

The problem is that ESPN's statistics pages keep getting screwed up when you relod or go from year to year. So, this guy looked at a page that indicated that Bank One has a park factor that was 0.5, rather than its actual one of 1.06, which makes it the third best park for hitters.
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Postby wrveres » Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:35 pm

This was kinda funny.
Pat Burrell hit fifth behind Jim Thome again today and seems set to open the season in that spot.

Manager Charlie Manuel has been quite the flip-flopper. He originally said he wanted Burrell batting cleanup between lefties Bobby Abreu and Jim Thome and Burrell stepped up in a big way this spring. So what's happening? He's batting fifth anyway. Chase Utley was a starter, had a great spring and he'll be out of the lineup tomorrow. Kenny Lofton has been dropped in the lineup for no good reason. Mike Lieberthal has had a fine spring, but he hit eighth behind the struggling David Bell today. Brett Myers was the No. 2 starter, then the No. 4 starter and now the No. 2 starter again, even though he has a 7.66 ERA. At this rate, we may actually miss Larry Bowa within a couple of months.
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