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Postby superfly » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:57 pm

nuggets wrote:Uhhh I think YODA was being a little sarcastic. Does anyone remember how Clemens finished the season? I'll remind you:

Sept '04
6 GS, 4 W, 0 L, 42.0 IP (7IP average), 12 BB, 46 K, 2.57 ERA, 0.93 WHIP, .182 BAA

;-D ;-D ;-D Does it get any better than that?


Yes, try 5-0 40 IP 52 K's 0.45 ERA 0.68 WHIP.
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Postby LBJackal » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:04 pm

nuggets wrote:
LBJackal wrote:What are you talking about? You want projections? Here:

14 W, 3.80 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, 200 K's

I'm sorry I don't follow all the threads where you bicker about something I said. I know you don't agree, and you know you won't agree with my projections, why do you want them so badly?


Yea I sorta specifically asked a few days ago. Wow those are pretty ok numbers for a guy you talked all that crap about being old, downhill and lucky. Mine would be not that far off from yours:


15 W, 205 K, 3.35 ERA, 1.23 WHIP


Like I said I didn't even read the thread so no matter how specific you were I wouldn't have noticed anyway.

And 14 W, 3.80 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, 200 K's is not that good relative to where people are drafting him. He's also 42 so health is an issue in both missing games, and performance.
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Postby nuggets » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:06 pm

superfly wrote:
nuggets wrote:Uhhh I think YODA was being a little sarcastic. Does anyone remember how Clemens finished the season? I'll remind you:

Sept '04
6 GS, 4 W, 0 L, 42.0 IP (7IP average), 12 BB, 46 K, 2.57 ERA, 0.93 WHIP, .182 BAA

;-D ;-D ;-D Does it get any better than that?


Yes, try 5-0 40 IP 52 K's 0.45 ERA 0.68 WHIP.


Hey why not try 7 W, 63 IP, 77K, 0.00 ERA, 0.00 WHIP? Oh, because we are talking about Clemens late in his career, not Unit or someone who is likely to get better stats. It was a relative statement.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:08 pm

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Yoda wrote:What's even funnier is that people who are so down on Clemens are the ones taking RJ in the first round.

Because RJ was the rightful Cy Young. He had better numbers in everything except wins. Which is team dependent and a horrible way to hand out Cy Youngs.


But are Cy Young totals a stat in FBB?

The stats that are taken into consideration for the Cy Young are usually counted in Fantasy Baseball...
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Postby nuggets » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:18 pm

CubsFan7724 wrote:
nuggets wrote:
CubsFan7724 wrote:
Yoda wrote:What's even funnier is that people who are so down on Clemens are the ones taking RJ in the first round.

Because RJ was the rightful Cy Young. He had better numbers in everything except wins. Which is team dependent and a horrible way to hand out Cy Youngs.


But are Cy Young totals a stat in FBB?

The stats that are taken into consideration for the Cy Young are usually counted in Fantasy Baseball...



lol, ;-D
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Postby nuggets » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:20 pm

LBJackal wrote: I didn't even read the thread
:-?
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Postby LBJackal » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:29 pm

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LBJackal wrote: I didn't even read the thread
:-?


I didn't read your post. Do you honestly not know what I meant, or are you just being an ass?
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Postby demoflauchy » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:13 pm

No one's likely noticed, but Clemens line tonight so far against the Reds:

5IP, 1H, 5K

Not bad for a 42 year old.
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Postby nuggets » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:36 am

I know you've been waiting for this one LB. Clemens pitched a great game tonight by starting where he left off last year. I'll enjoy watching whether or not he has a strong finish again this year.


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Postby LBJackal » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:48 am

You don't bet against him? I hope you didn't bet too much in 2002 or 2003.

It's a long season my friend. And there are better teams than Cincinatti out there.
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