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Postby proninja » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:07 pm

Shouldn't the question be:

Would you rather have a guy who was great last year and sucked before that or a guy who sucked last year and was great before that?
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Postby Mustangs989 » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:12 pm

Give me Vazquez every time, him moving back to the NL and Pavano moving to the AL gives Javier the advantage for me...
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:13 pm

Vazquez, not even close. More K's, better ERA and WHIP. Pavano might luck into more W with that run support but it won't make a difference. Yanks04 is just bitter that Vaz sucked in NY; pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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Postby Yoda » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:40 pm

I think the popular choice would be Pavano but Vazquez has shown that he is a much better pitcher despite his collapse in 04.
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Postby Pedantic » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:42 pm

Neither. I'm avoiding both like the plague. :-b
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Postby chaos » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:01 pm

let's compare pavano's 03 and 04 stats-
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      K/9 BB/9  HR/9  ERA
'03  6.0  2.2   0.85  4.3
'04  5.6  2.0   0.65  3.0


do you really see that much of a difference to justify that big of a drop in era? it's quite simple- pavano just got lucky last year. i would definitely go with vazquez. imo he just got worn out the 2nd half of last year having thrown so many innings in the previous few years. switching back to the NL should also help.
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:28 pm

Yeah Pavano wasn't that much better in 2004 than 2003. Just more stranded runners, and better luck. Moving to the AL East isn't gonna help him much. An ERA just a bit on the north side of 4 is what I'd expect but he doesn't K much and won't have a very good WHIP. Vaz should be considerably better.
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Postby thehat » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:37 pm

Vazquez did not get worn out. His mechanics got completely fouled up, and there's room for doubt as to whether he's solved that riddle. I'd lean to Pavano, who should win 15 and post a reasonable ERA.
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Postby MashinSpuds » Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:13 pm

thehat wrote:Vazquez did not get worn out. His mechanics got completely fouled up, and there's room for doubt as to whether he's solved that riddle. I'd lean to Pavano, who should win 15 and post a reasonable ERA.


I hope it was just mechanics, and that he has them figured out. Apart from that one bad outing his spring was pretty good. If he's back on track he'll get better stats than Pavano, minus the wins. At least, my fantasy teams hopes... :-o
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