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Postby hybrid » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:58 pm

It's close, but I'll say Harden. I don't entirely trust Burnett to stay healthy and I don't think he will be as good of pitcher this year as I think Harden will be.
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Postby Yoda » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:02 pm

Phatferd wrote:I'd take Harden, they both pitch in a pitchers park, but I think Oakland is more of one and he is less of an injury concern. Harden has more potential too. If Burnett can do what he is capable of its slightly better than what Harden did last year. If Harden improves at all I think he is better than Burnett.


See, I'm not sure that Harden has a higher ceiling. Burnett was hitting 100 a few times when he returned. However, the biggest selling point for me was his improved control he flashed 04.

I think they are pretty even but for 05, I'll take my chances with Burnett. Better team and more experience.
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Postby pedrosanpedro » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:11 pm

It's really close between these two talents... but with AJ's injury question mark, i'd give the photo finish to Harden...
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Postby Phatferd » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:12 pm

Yoda wrote:
Phatferd wrote:I'd take Harden, they both pitch in a pitchers park, but I think Oakland is more of one and he is less of an injury concern. Harden has more potential too. If Burnett can do what he is capable of its slightly better than what Harden did last year. If Harden improves at all I think he is better than Burnett.


See, I'm not sure that Harden has a higher ceiling. Burnett was hitting 100 a few times when he returned. However, the biggest selling point for me was his improved control he flashed 04.

I think they are pretty even but for 05, I'll take my chances with Burnett. Better team and more experience.


Who do you think will have more K's? I am just curious as to what people think.
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Postby BostonBK7 » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:18 pm

Harden ;-D

I also think he will get more strikeouts than Burnett. Check this out from Yahoo:

"Mar 28 A's right-hander Rich Harden struck out eight more batters in Sunday's game against the Rockies, giving him 16 in his last two outings and a 29 on the spring—highest in the Cactus League. "

Yes I know I know its spring training but thats pretty nice.
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Postby TB13 » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:20 pm

[quote="Phatferd"]Who do you think will have more K's? I am just curious as to what people think.[/quote]

I think that the K's will be virtually even. MAYBE AJ has a few more due to him facing the pitcher.
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:19 pm

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Postby brandnew » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:24 pm

The A's offense is pretty good, so Harden should get his share of wins. Not to mention their bullpen is substantially better.
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Postby reiser » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:51 pm

Phatferd wrote: Who do you think will have more K's? I am just curious as to what people think.


Burnett had a significantly better K/9 over the second half last year. ugh, I hate to say this, but I do think Burnett has more upside. but that's a lot of injury risk.

they are not real easy to get back to back either, you would probably have to bid up one of them if you wanted to land them both.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:55 pm

Burnett for me - he just has the higher ceiling. What he did last yr after returning from TJ was Cy Young type stuff - ridiculous %s.

As for the injury, I really am not that worried about it - the track record for guys coming off TJ is very good and Ps can often come back stronger than before they had the injury (as Burnett showed last yr).
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