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Postby matdemos » Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:30 am

I had a draft today and ended up with a bunch of Mets (Wright, Kaz, Pedro, Looper)...anyway, I was thinking about their recent woes (i.e., spending the dough but not winning) and I gotta say, I think the Mets can challenge the Marlins and Braves for the NL East.

Question marks: health of just about everyone, but namely Reyes, Floyd, Piazza and Pedro; defense in the middle infield (elsewhere it ranges from average to Gold Glove-winning); and the suspect bullpen.

Upside: all that speed! (I count five guys that could snag 20 bags or more), Beltran, and a deceptive amount of power: Wright will hit 20 and has untapped power beyond, Beltran can hit 40 - Shea be damned, I like Kaz to follow the other Matsui and enjoy a power spike in his second MLB season, and Floyd is an underrated hitter. As for the rotation, I think it all hinges on Pedro - having an ace to follow can take pressure off guys with a lot of it (Benson, Zambrano).

So where am I wrong? Will they disappoint again?
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Postby Conner » Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:35 am

The pitching isn't good enough.

Pedro will be fantastic, and I think Benson will be good, too...Glavine and Zambrano aren't terrible...but they're just not good enough, in my opinion.
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Postby ukrneal » Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:39 am

Where are you wrong?? > Ishii, Benson, Zambrano. As a Met fan, I was really ready to fire someone when they traded for Zambrano. I just don't see him doing all that well. Benson has only ever diasppointed and Ishii, who at least seems to be able to perform at times, will give you hearburn.

Their hitting could do well if healthy, but I think they really need to work more on pitching, incuding SP depth and RP. I DO think that Glavine will have a good year now that he will be #2 - I think this helps him hugely.
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Postby CrazyPooja90 » Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:14 am

ukrneal wrote:Where are you wrong?? > Ishii, Benson, Zambrano. As a Met fan, I was really ready to fire someone when they traded for Zambrano. I just don't see him doing all that well. Benson has only ever diasppointed and Ishii, who at least seems to be able to perform at times, will give you hearburn.

Their hitting could do well if healthy, but I think they really need to work more on pitching, incuding SP depth and RP. I DO think that Glavine will have a good year now that he will be #2 - I think this helps him hugely.


Glavine historically will play up to the standard of his team, so if the Mets are in contention I bet he'll step it up. Benson is on the verge of a breakout and Pedro is Pedro.

I think it is a pretty good possibility that the Mets make the post season, but I don't know, the NL East looks really good this year. :-?
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Postby wrveres » Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:57 am

I thought for sure this was thread about the NY Mets Official Theme Song ..

"Meet the Mets"


Meet the Mets, Meet the Mets,

Step right up and greet the Mets,

Bring your kiddies, bring your wife,

Guaranteed to have the time of your life

Because the Mets are really socking the ball

Knocking those homers over the wall.

East side, West side ev'rybody's coming down,

to meet the M-E-T-S Mets from New York town.

Oh the butcher and the baker and the people on the street

Where do they go? To meet the Mets!

Oh they're clapping and their shouting when they sit down in their seats

Where do they go? To meet the Mets!

Oh their hearts beat true for the Orange and Blue

So grab your hat and come right down

'Cause we've got ourselves a ballclub, the Mets of New York Town!

Give 'em a yell, give 'em a hand,

And let them know your cheering in the stands!

Come on and..

Meet the Mets! Meet the Mets!

Our hats are tipped for that swingin' set!

Near the airport, near the bay

Jets and Boats are so near to Shea!

'Cos the Great World's Fair is right down the road!

A World of Tomorrow just can't be ignored.

Roos-e-velt Avenue, the L.I.E.

Will take you to the place to be!

In a jazzy fedora or a pillbox hat

We'll welcome you, and that's where it's at.

Come share a slice of the toast of the town,

you won't be bored

when cheering our heroes in '64.
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Postby ukrneal » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:21 am

God awful song that I know by heart!!!

ISn't it 'Knocking those homeruns over the wall' instead of homers?
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Postby mrider » Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:52 am

The Mets hitting is looking as good as anyy but the staff is very weak. Having nothing past Pedro on the staff I dont see them doing much this year.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:59 am

After Pedro and Looper, the pitching staff is mediocre at best. Thats whats going to put them in 3rd place in the US East.
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Postby donny23 » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:23 am

The Marlins might just be constructed better than any team in baseball....dollar for dollar no doubt. They have a great lineup - speed at the top, power in the middle, decent depth. They have a young staff with two potential studs in Beckett and Burnett, a solid #3 and 4 in Willis and Leiter and well, a sucky #5. They have a good bullpen and Mota should be solid, but if not, they have Alfonseca to back him up. I see no real holes on that entire team.

Then you look at the Braves. A GREAT pitching staff. Not much needs to be said about their top 2 in Hudson and Smoltz. Nice depth with Hampton, Thomson and Ramirez and a couple of minor leaguers waiting to get their chance. They have a solid closer in Kolb with pretty good bullpen depth. They have question marks in their lineup, especially in the OF, but they have enough options there so we'll see what emerges.

Now let's look at the Mets in comparison. Like the Braves and Marlins, their lienup is constructed pretty well. I'd say it might even be the best of the 3 if healthy. I think their is less risk in the Marlins lineup with health and age though, so I'd take Florida's linuep. They have speed at the top with Reyes and Matsui, big pop in the middle with Beltran, Piazza and Floyd and great depth with Cameron, Wright, and well one hole at 1B in terms of production. Where they don't even come close to matching either the Marlins or Braves is in pitching. Pedro is a great ace. Glavine and Benson make a decent but not spectacular 2,3 (I'd easily take Smoltz and Hampton and Burnett and Willis over them). What the Mets really lack is rotation depth though. The Trachsel injury really hurts them. Their bullpen will be below average if they are lucky. Looper is an ok closer but they have nothing to set him up. The Mets will lose plenty of games in the 6th, 7th and 8th innings. Are the Mets better? Yes, MUCH better. They are in a tough division though. The moves they made in the offseason only helped them move into the 3rd spot in the NL east for now, IMO.
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Postby wrveres » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:33 am

Hey lets not forget that excellent pitching staff offered up by the Phils.

Vicente Padilla career 3.77 ERA (injured)
Randy Wolf career 4.13 ERA
Jon Lieber career 4.20 ERA
Cory Lidle career 4.52 ERA
Brett Myers career 4.84 ERA


In that ballpark?
LMAO ... yeah they are going places.
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