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BHHA First Round - Ice-T vs. Fugees

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Ice-T or Fugees

Poll ended at Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:03 pm

Ice-T
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46%
Fugees
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54%
 
Total votes : 28

BHHA First Round - Ice-T vs. Fugees

Postby ironman » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:03 pm

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Ice-T (born Tracy Morrow) has proven to be one of hip-hop's most articulate and intelligent stars, as well as one of its most frustrating. At his best, the rapper has written some of the best portraits of ghetto life and gangsters, as well as some of the best social commentary hip-hop has produced. Just as often, he can slip into sexism and gratuitous violence, and even then his rhymes are clever and biting. Ice-T's best recordings have always been made in conjunction with strong collaborators, whether it's the Bomb Squad or Jello Biafra. With his music, Ice-T has made a conscious effort to win the vast audience of white male adolescents, as his frequent excursions with his heavy metal band Body Count show. All the while, he has withstood a constant barrage of criticism and controversy to become a respected figure not only in the music press, but the mainstream media as well.

Although he was one of the leading figures of Californian hip-hop in the '80s, Ice-T was born in Newark, NJ. When he was a child, he moved from his native Newark to California after his parents died in an auto accident. While he was in high school, he became obsessed with rap while he went to Crenshaw High School in South Central Los Angeles. Ice-T took his name from Iceberg Slim, a pimp who wrote novels and poetry. Ice-T used to memorize lines of Iceberg Slim's poetry, reciting them for friends and classmates. After he left high school, he recorded several undistinguished 12" singles in the early '80s. He also appeared in the low-budget hip-hop films Rappin', Breakin', and Breakin' II: Electric Boogaloo as he was trying to establish a career.

Ice-T finally landed a major-label record deal with Sire Records in 1987, releasing his debut album, Rhyme Pays. On the record, he is supported by DJ Aladdin and producer Afrika Islam, who helped create the rolling, spare beats and samples that provided a backdrop for the rapper's charismatic rhymes, which were mainly party-oriented; the record wound up going gold. That same year, he recorded the theme song for Dennis Hopper's Colors, a film about inner-city life in Los Angeles. The song -- also called "Colors" -- was stronger, both lyrically and musically, with more incisive lyrics, than anything he had previously released. Ice-T formed his own record label, Rhyme Syndicate (which was distributed through Sire/Warner) in 1988, and released Power. Power was a more assured and impressive record, earning him strong reviews and his second gold record. Released in 1989, The Iceberg/Freedom of Speech...Just Watch What You Say established him as a true hip-hop superstar by matching excellent abrasive music with fierce, intelligent narratives, and political commentaries, especially about hip-hop censorship.

Two years later, Ice-T began an acting career, starring in the updated blaxploitation film New Jack City; he also recorded "New Jack Hustler" for the film. "New Jack Hustler" became one of the centerpieces of 1991's O.G.: Original Gangster, which became his most successful album to date. O.G. also featured a metal track called "Body Count" recorded with Ice-T's band of the same name. Ice-T took the band out on tour that summer, as he performed on the first Lollapalooza tour. The tour set-up increased his appeal with both alternative music fans and middle-class teenagers. The following year, the rapper decided to released an entire album with the band, also called Body Count.

Body Count proved to be a major turning point in Ice-T's career. On the basis of the track "Cop Killer" -- where he sang from the point-of-view of a police murderer -- the record ignited a national controversy; it was protested by the NRA and police activist groups. Time Warner Records initially supported Ice-T, yet they refused to release his new rap album, Home Invasion, on the basis of the record cover. Ice-T and the label parted ways by the end of the year. Home Invasion was released on Priority Records in the spring of 1993 to lukewarm reviews and sales. Somewhere along the way, Ice-T had begun to lose most of his original hip-hop audience; now he appealed primarily to suburban white teens. In 1994, he wrote a book and released the second Body Count album, Born Dead, which failed to stir up the same controversy as the first record -- indeed, it failed to gain much attention of any sort. Nevertheless, Body Count was successful in clubs and Ice-T continued to tour with the band.

In the summer of 1996, Ice-T released his first rap album since 1993, Return of the Real. The album was greeted by mixed reviews and it failed to live up to commercial expectations. 7th Deadly Sin followed in 1999. Ice-T then returned to acting, taking a role on NBC's Law & Order : Special Victims Unit playing, ironically, a police officer. ~ Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide

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WHEN the Fugees released their second album, The Score, in early 1996, the trio's organic style of hip-hop injected a shot of much-needed soul into a genre saturated with testosterone-induced posturing and gangsta attitudes. For Lauryn Hill, Wyclef Jean, and Prakazrel "Pras" Michel, hip-hop was as much about Bob Marley and Nina Simone as it was the Notorious B.I.G. and Snoop Doggy Dogg. Driven primarily by Hill's sun-drenched version of the old Roberta Flack hit "Killing Me Softly," the Fugees went on to sell more than eight million copies of their sophomore effort worldwide, becoming one of the biggest legitimate (unlike Hammer and Vanilla Ice) hip-hop artists of all time.

The Caribbean background of Jean and his cousin Michel (both were born in Haiti and moved to the United States as children), and the time all three group members spent in the environment of their parents' churches, contributed significantly to the development of the Fugees' homegrown blend of beats, raps, reggae, and soul. Jean and Michel grew up in Brooklyn (though they later moved to Newark, N.J., as teens), living in neighborhoods that had a large contingent of Caribbean émigrés. Both their fathers were pastors in the local church, and as such, the music of the church imbued itself in their consciousness. When he was a boy, Jean's burgeoning musical curiosity led him to pick up and learn to play as many instruments as he could find. Hill, on the other hand, had been singing in the church choir and in gospel groups with members of her family since she was a little girl.

As a 13-year-old freshman, Hill first met Michel in high school ("He was looking for fresh meat," she once joked in an interview). He and Jean had been in a band for a while, and both were intrigued with the possibility of adding a female member to the group, especially one with a sugar-coated voice like hers. Thus, the Fugees, or Tranzlator Crew as they originally called themselves, was born. After almost two years of informal playing, the Fugees hooked up with a local production company that included members of Kool & the Gang. The group signed a record deal, changed their name (short for Refugees, an allusion to their Caribbean roots) and, a year later, finished recording their debut album, Blunted on Reality.

Because of internal problems at their label, the album was not released until two years later, in 1993. When it was finally issued, Blunted on Reality made little impact on the music landscape. It was largely a collection of overproduced songs that sounded tremendously dated and, at times, downright annoying. The Fugees' concert appearances didn't add much to their reputation either. Their shows featured live instruments, but, embarrassingly, the group cavorted around the stage in color-coordinated outfits, engaging in somewhat goofy routines. Today, the group readily admits that in their youth, they were just happy to have a record deal and were doing whatever the producers told them to do. Indeed, Hill was only 16 when the album was recorded, and Jean, the eldest member, was a scant 21.

One performance on Blunted, however, was a harbinger of things to come. Hidden about 10 songs deep was a gem called "Some Seek Stardom," a syrupy soliloquy from Lauryn Hill that served as the album's sole moment of redemption. In that song, Hill rapped with the grace of Muhammed Ali and the spirit of Billie Holiday. At that time, the Fugees were still little more than a no-name group, but the release of two remix singles helped to evaporate their anonymity.

Employing live instrumentation, and with the help of producer Salaam Remi, the Fugees ostensibly crafted a whole new song based on the Blunted track "Nappy Heads," a smooth and silky reworked version that highlighted the group's love of buttery bass lines and soul-soaked horns. The tune also put the half-crooning, half-rhyming delivery of Hill in the spotlight, delivering a fresh vibrancy that made the Fugees sound positively infectious. That remix - and its similarly styled follow-up, "Vocab" - catapulted the band onto radio charts, dance floors, and, of all places, MTV. The Fugees were no longer a band ignored, but one on the brink of stardom.

The attention the group received, though, was perhaps bittersweet. With her dark chocolate skin, innocent starlet eyes, and juicy plum lips, Hill became the most easily identifiable Fugee. Fans were enamored with her poetry, her skill, and her beauty. Couple that with her burgeoning notoriety as an actress (she began with bit parts in soap operas, and was later featured in Sister Act II with Whoopi Goldberg), and some people began to consider that Hill, for all intents and purposes, was the Fugees. There was constant urging by fans, the media, and even close friends to ditch Jean and Michel and go solo.

Hill would have none of that, and in early 1996, the Fugees returned with The Score, an album so wholly different from their first that many people think of it as their debut. According to the band, the album is conceptual, running from beginning to end as if it were the soundtrack to a fictional, unmade film. Weaving darkly melodic tunes like "Ready or Not," with the spiritual politics of Bob Marley's "No Woman, No Cry," and the specter of "Killing Me Softly," it seemed the Fugees had finally found their musical voice. They questioned the Mafioso mentalities and violent imagery in hip-hop music, all the while providing a booming spring and summertime masterpiece. Hill was no longer alone in her achievements, as Michel's production talents and Jean's musicianship and wordsmithing were just as enchanting as her ever-charismatic lyricism.

The Fugees' sound had become ubiquitous, reaching fans of all types of music, not just hip-hop. Hill's guest vocal on the Nas hit single "If I Ruled the World," and a headlining slot on the first annual Smokin' Grooves tour catapulted the group to appeal of gargantuan proportions. After the tour, Lauryn revealed that she was pregnant, and Jean revealed his plans for a Refugee All-Stars project. In February of 1997, the Fugees cemented their status by winning two Grammy Awards, one for Best Rap Album and one for Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group.

Proving that his outspoken activism was more than mere words, Jean insisted the Fugees perform in Haiti as the first in a series of projects aimed at helping unite Haitian people around the world. The concert, which took place in April 1997 in Port-au-Prince, drew a record crowd of 75 thousand people. The money raised was to go to aid Haitian refugees, develop and fund projects by Haitian artists, and assist the feeding of poverty-stricken children in the country. A post-concert scandal revealed that the money raised had been "lost." An investigation by the Haitian government failed to determine whether the funds simply covered the cost of putting on the massive show, or if the pockets of several government ministers were thickly lined.
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Postby ensanimal » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:27 pm

ice-t ;-D
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Postby logan » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:28 pm

true pimp ice t ;-D
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Postby perlick29 » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:46 pm

There was a time when the Fugees were the best group around period. Ice T is a good rapper but think of the talent that was in the group. Both Wyclef and the rumored but untrue racist Lauryn Hill were both stars. ;-D
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Postby Rirruto » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:59 pm

Gotta go with the Fugees on this one. They were great when together.
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Postby acsguitar » Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:28 pm

Lauren Hill makes me not like the fugees
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Postby kimchi_chigae » Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:35 pm

back where i come from...Ice-T is a drink. :-B
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Postby nsulham » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:53 pm

Not really feeling either of these choices but went with Ice-T for his part in Chappelle's "Playa Hata's Ball". Plus T is an original pimp.
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Postby so0perspam » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:53 pm

Ice T for me.
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Postby FatGuyWithAMullet » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:20 pm

Close, but I gotta go with Ice-T.
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