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Postby OREO fan » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:06 pm

why are people relatively down on a-rod? i know 3b is deep but i would still take him with the first pick

he still plays in one of the most stacked offenses in hte majors and he stole 28 bases last year making him a 5 category guy - maybe pujols and vlad get 15 more rbi and 15 points higher average but i will take the steals

as far as beltran - he hit .265 or something like that last year - in KC and houston - what is he gonna hit in shea stadium - plus all of his run production numbers should be down too - i am not saying he should fall past probably #4 but i would take arod, pujols and vlad over him
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Postby Yin_Xu88 » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:12 pm

as far as beltran - he hit .265 or something like that last year - in KC and houston - what is he gonna hit in shea stadium - plus all of his run production numbers should be down too - i am not saying he should fall past probably #4 but i would take arod, pujols and vlad over him


he wont be effected by Shea because he hit over .300 on the road last year, and he has also had a couple .300avg seasons. So i'm not worried about the .260ish avg from last year.
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Postby xeifrank » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:13 pm

I usually pre-rank as follows:

1) V.Guerrero
2) A-Rod
3) Pujols (just worried about his foot, otherwise #1)
4) Tejada (pos scarcity)
5) Abreu (like him better than beltran)
6) Beltran
7) Santana
8) Soriano
9) Man Ram
10) RJ
11) Helton
12) Crawford/Rolen

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Postby curious_george_43545 » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:15 pm

OREO fan wrote:why are people relatively down on a-rod? i know 3b is deep but i would still take him with the first pick

he still plays in one of the most stacked offenses in hte majors and he stole 28 bases last year making him a 5 category guy - maybe pujols and vlad get 15 more rbi and 15 points higher average but i will take the steals

To begin with Arod is not a 5 cat player, he's 4 since he doesn't really help you at al in average. Also his homeruns will be about that of last year and won't return to his numbers in Texas, since Texas is a WAY better aprk for righties. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but even in that stacked lineup he wont get THAT many RBI's since he'll abt two I believe.....this should equal a good amount of steals and runs though. I'd put Arod at 4 overall.
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Postby LBJackal » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:20 pm

Even if A-Rod goes 40-40 with his .280 BA and 115 R/RBI I see him having, Beltran and Pujols are still more valuable. And there's no way he goes 40/40. 40/20 is a longshot IMO. He's not even close to the #1 pick.
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Postby Yin_Xu88 » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:23 pm

the only player that acutally has a chance at 40/40 is beltran. We all know that he can steal and last year he finally showed potential to hit 40+hrs
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Postby Payne Dailey » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:25 pm

The draft I did last Sunday went like this.

1) A-Rod
2) Pujols
3) Beltran
4) Tejada
5) Guerrero
6) Santana
7) Ramírez
8) Soriano
9) Johnson
10) Abreu
11) Crawford
12) Rolen

I had the second pick.
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Postby nuggets » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:28 pm

LBJackal wrote:In the Cafe Challenge, the top 12 drafted were:

Pujols
A-Rod
Vlad
Beltran
RJ
Tejada
Abreu
Santana
Ramirez
Soriano
Helton
Schmidt

Other than Other than A-Rod going so early, and Ramirez too to some extent, I think that's a pretty well drafted first round (I don't like Santana as a first rounder this year but that's just opinion I guess).

I got Beltran at #4 but definately would have taken him #1 if I had that pick.


hmmm, no crawford, interesting provided some peoples comments of late.
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Postby LBJackal » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:32 pm

nuggets wrote:
LBJackal wrote:In the Cafe Challenge, the top 12 drafted were:

Pujols
A-Rod
Vlad
Beltran
RJ
Tejada
Abreu
Santana
Ramirez
Soriano
Helton
Schmidt

Other than Other than A-Rod going so early, and Ramirez too to some extent, I think that's a pretty well drafted first round (I don't like Santana as a first rounder this year but that's just opinion I guess).

I got Beltran at #4 but definately would have taken him #1 if I had that pick.


hmmm, no crawford, interesting provided some peoples comments of late.


I said he's ranked 10-15, and he is. Besides, what control do I have over other people drafting Crawford?
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Postby OREO fan » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:38 pm

i agree that arod has no chance at 40/40 but last year was an aberration with a .280 average - usually he is a .300 if not better hitter

even in yankee stadium i am guessing he will get back to 40 hrs - combine that with 25 steals, 120 runs and 110 rbi - and i say that is a 5 category player

vlad might get a few more rbi and a little higher average but give me the extra 10-15 steals from arod so i dont have to worry much about that stupid category

pujols does nothing in steals and the other categories are similar to vlad

beltran's power will go down this year - i bet he wont crack 100 rbi and will probably get around 100 runs - throw in a .275 average in a tough hitter's park (just having good road #s does not mean he will be good in shea) and i dont see how he enters into thsi equation - i almost agree with the one guy who would take abreu over him
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