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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:04 pm

Yoda wrote:i don't quite understand the infatuations with Dunn. The guy K'd 195 times or roughly 1 out of every 3 times up. That is not good. At all. Unless he learns the K zone better, he will never be worth that much in fantasy or in real life.



One can say just about the same thing about Soriano...for year. Never stops people from draftinh him.
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Postby FatGuyWithAMullet » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:06 pm

Yoda wrote:i don't quite understand the infatuations with Dunn. The guy K'd 195 times or roughly 1 out of every 3 times up. That is not good. At all. Unless he learns the K zone better, he will never be worth that much in fantasy or in real life.


Are you kidding me? If he hit the open market right now he'd get $10M+ a year easily.
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Postby Sp_Da_Man » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:11 pm

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i don't quite understand the infatuations with Dunn. The guy K'd 195 times or roughly 1 out of every 3 times up. That is not good. At all. Unless he learns the K zone better, he will never be worth that much in fantasy or in real life.


I'll take 40+ HR's & 100+ RBI's on my team anyday.
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Postby brandnew » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:18 pm

Yoda wrote:i don't quite understand the infatuations with Dunn. The guy K'd 195 times or roughly 1 out of every 3 times up. That is not good. At all. Unless he learns the K zone better, he will never be worth that much in fantasy or in real life.


Learns the K zone better? The guy walked 108 times.

You keep thinking he won't be worth much, but when he's a FA, and he's making 13 Mil. a year, you might change your opinion.
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Postby lesgrant » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:31 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:
Yoda wrote:i don't quite understand the infatuations with Dunn. The guy K'd 195 times or roughly 1 out of every 3 times up. That is not good. At all. Unless he learns the K zone better, he will never be worth that much in fantasy or in real life.



One can say just about the same thing about Soriano...for year. Never stops people from draftinh him.


Adam Dunn is not a 35/35 ballplayer.
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Postby so0perspam » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:32 pm

lesgrant wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:
Yoda wrote:i don't quite understand the infatuations with Dunn. The guy K'd 195 times or roughly 1 out of every 3 times up. That is not good. At all. Unless he learns the K zone better, he will never be worth that much in fantasy or in real life.



One can say just about the same thing about Soriano...for year. Never stops people from draftinh him.


Adam Dunn is not a 35/35 ballplayer.


Neither is Soriano, what's your point?
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Postby lesgrant » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:35 pm

so0perspam wrote:
lesgrant wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:
Yoda wrote:i don't quite understand the infatuations with Dunn. The guy K'd 195 times or roughly 1 out of every 3 times up. That is not good. At all. Unless he learns the K zone better, he will never be worth that much in fantasy or in real life.



One can say just about the same thing about Soriano...for year. Never stops people from draftinh him.


Adam Dunn is not a 35/35 ballplayer.


Neither is Soriano, what's your point?


In two of the past three years he was. That's my point. Does your memory only go back 12 months?
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Postby so0perspam » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:41 pm

lesgrant wrote:
so0perspam wrote:
lesgrant wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:
Yoda wrote:i don't quite understand the infatuations with Dunn. The guy K'd 195 times or roughly 1 out of every 3 times up. That is not good. At all. Unless he learns the K zone better, he will never be worth that much in fantasy or in real life.



One can say just about the same thing about Soriano...for year. Never stops people from draftinh him.


Adam Dunn is not a 35/35 ballplayer.


Neither is Soriano, what's your point?


In two of the past three years he was. That's my point. Does your memory only go back 12 months?


My memory goes back to these trends:

BA:
2002- .300
2003- .290
2004- .280

HR:
2002- 39
2003- 38
2004- 28

Runs:
2002- 128
2003- 114
2004- 77

RBI's:
2002- 102
2003- 91
2004- 91

SB:
2002- 41
2003- 35
2004- 18

OPS:
2002- .880
2003- .863
2004- .807

Sorry, I just have a really bad memory. Those trends mean absolutely nothing, he's exactly the same 35/35 player he was.
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Postby lesgrant » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:47 pm

so0perspam wrote:
lesgrant wrote:
so0perspam wrote:
lesgrant wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:
Yoda wrote:i don't quite understand the infatuations with Dunn. The guy K'd 195 times or roughly 1 out of every 3 times up. That is not good. At all. Unless he learns the K zone better, he will never be worth that much in fantasy or in real life.



One can say just about the same thing about Soriano...for year. Never stops people from draftinh him.


Adam Dunn is not a 35/35 ballplayer.


Neither is Soriano, what's your point?




In two of the past three years he was. That's my point. Does your memory only go back 12 months?


My memory goes back to these trends:

BA:
2002- .300
2003- .290
2004- .280

HR:
2002- 39
2003- 38
2004- 28

Runs:
2002- 128
2003- 114
2004- 77

RBI's:
2002- 102
2003- 91
2004- 91

SB:
2002- 41
2003- 35
2004- 18

OPS:
2002- .880
2003- .863
2004- .807

Sorry, I just have a really bad memory. Those trends mean absolutely nothing, he's exactly the same 35/35 player he was.


Oh the trend of two of the past three seasons being a 35/35 season. What, is the last season of a player's performance the standard to base all projections on? Wrong.

You sound like a real flavor of the month sucker.
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Postby so0perspam » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:27 am

Bottom line, Soriano has gone from a premium early first round selection to a lower upper-tier player whom people reach for early just because he plays 2B.
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