Aquino, Borowski, Wickman and Affeldt ... rank them.

[kimchi_chigae]

You're not wrong KC, this guy is off. Shamsky, areyou trying to exagerrate or something when you said how good a team is has absolutely nothing to do with how many saves a closer gets?

Shamsky is correct IMO. Look at the SVOs over the last couple of years. They are all over the board. It's not to say good teams or bad teams get more SVOs just that there is no correlation between SVOs and Wins and Losses that I am aware of.

hey Amazinz...would you be kind enough to give me the link to a page showing SVO team numbers? i can't seem to find it now...

[Amazinz]

You're not wrong KC, this guy is off. Shamsky, areyou trying to exagerrate or something when you said how good a team is has absolutely nothing to do with how many saves a closer gets?

Shamsky is correct IMO. Look at the SVOs over the last couple of years. They are all over the board. It's not to say good teams or bad teams get more SVOs just that there is no correlation between SVOs and Wins and Losses that I am aware of.

hey Amazinz...would you be kind enough to give me the link to a page showing SVO team numbers? i can't seem to find it now...

2004 SVOs by Team

2003

They have all the other years too.

[kimchi_chigae]

You're not wrong KC, this guy is off. Shamsky, areyou trying to exagerrate or something when you said how good a team is has absolutely nothing to do with how many saves a closer gets?

Shamsky is correct IMO. Look at the SVOs over the last couple of years. They are all over the board. It's not to say good teams or bad teams get more SVOs just that there is no correlation between SVOs and Wins and Losses that I am aware of.

hey Amazinz...would you be kind enough to give me the link to a page showing SVO team numbers? i can't seem to find it now...

2004 SVOs by Team

2003

They have all the other years too.

thnx man. go mets.

and...when are you gonna trade me livan?

[Amazinz]

As soon as you trade me Helton for Bonds...