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Postby MaggsIsMint » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:41 pm

I am planning out my draft strategy for my 5x5 roto league that takes place on sunday. I am planning on taking Miguel Tejeda with the 6th pick and then taking an outfielder with speed on the way back.

I am targeting Crawford, Ichiro and Pierre (In that order). All should score a ton of runs for sure and all get more than 30 stolen bases. Crawford should get the most steals again while Ichiro should have the best average. I think Pierre will score the most runs since he is batting in the best lineup of the 3.

I guess my question is:

A) How would everyone rank these 3?
B) Is 2nd round too early for Pierre?
C) Who is the next best outfielder of this type?

All comments are welcome


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Postby Mookie4ever » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:46 pm

This has got to be the 5th Craw/Ichiro thread. But ok:

Ichiro
Craw


Pierre - he shouldn't really be put with those two since Pierre is at least one round behind them.
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Postby thomasps3 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:53 pm

I can almost guarantee you that Ichiro and Crawford will not be available with the 6th pick in the 2nd round. I have seen Crawdady go as high as 5th overall, and Ichiro usually is grabbed no later than then 2nd or 3rd pick of the 2nd round, if that late. That leaves Pierre. In no way shape or form does Pierre go 2nd round. You are really painting yourself into a corner by saying you will only go with one of those three guys. Typically, you may be able to grab a Scott Rolen, or Adrian Beltre type, with the 6th pick in the 2nd round, and then grab Pierre, if you love him, with the 3rd round pick. Also, don't forget Pods. His ba is nothing to wake up in the night about, but you could conceivably grab him in the 6th round and get 70+ SBs this year, as Ozzie has professed his love of small ball. Lastly, you should consider being a bit more flexible in your strategy. For example, do you not draft Barry Bonds in the 2nd round if he is still there because you were targeting someone? Avoiding strict strategies and "picks" will allow you to get the most value for your picks.

And to conclude this longwinded post, in the first 3-4 rounds, you should really try and take the best available player, not a specialist like Pierre.
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Postby xeifrank » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:55 pm

What if Tejada goes at #5?

That is why I don't go into any draft with a strategy set in stone. That's a recipe for disaster. Better have a Plan B, C, D, E and F. :)

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Postby Eightan » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:13 pm

xeifrank wrote:What if Tejada goes at #5?

That is why I don't go into any draft with a strategy set in stone. That's a recipe for disaster.


completely agree... i picked tejada at #5, passing over beltran. I also wanted Ichiro as my 2nd round pick, but alas, he was taken with one of the first 3 picks in the that round, and I passed on Crawford, opting for my man Sheff instead. I would say not to pick Pierre that early in the 2nd round, although you probably won't get him with your pick in the 3rd round either. However, you can grab Podsednick in the 7th or 8th, or wait until your very last pick and grab Dave Roberts, like I did. But hey, if you like crawford that much, and he's around for your 2nd pick, by all means, DO IT ;-D
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Postby MaggsIsMint » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:16 pm

Sorry i didnt mean to imply that I had one strategy that was set in stone. My ideal picks would be Tejeda and then Crawford. I know a lot of you would really question that working but Crawford will be relatively unknown in my draft cuz there is a lot of rookies in our draft this year and they all pick behind me.

I guess also that I am probably overvaluing steals and runs in considering Pierre in the 2nd round , where 3rd round is a much smarter place for him.

My real problem is trying to find a guy to build my team aroudn with Tejeda if I get him. Would it maybe be better to trade down to the 9th slott, (12 team league) and try to grab Crawford or Soriano and a slugger or stay where i am and hope one of these gusy come to me. Cuz the guy in 9th really wants Tejeda too and is pleading with me to switch him positions.

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Postby thomasps3 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:41 pm

First things first:

What are the categories?

What is the overall knowledge level of owners?

Do you have completed rankings?

These are far more important ???s that need answering if you want helpful advice. Otherwise, it's like the blind leading the blind....
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:48 pm

Welcome to the Cafe, MaggsIsMint - great name by the way! ;-D

I think you are absolutely correct to overvalue Rs and SBs. Id also put BA way up there too - this is roto, right?

I think you are on the right track in targeting those players, but if I were in your position, I would try and gamble with getting Pierre in the 3rd. If you miss out there are plenty of options that can be had throughout the draft: Pods is the obvious, theres Reyes, Figgins, Both Roberts can be had relatively late, Reed out in Sea is a late rd favorite of mine - Im sure you can come up with plenty of ways to get steals. The trick is to gamble - if you miss out on one, another value pick is a rd away - just dont jump for one - let one fall to you.

Eightan - picking Tejada over Beltran is bad, mkay. :-o
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Postby thomasps3 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:04 pm

Hey MaggsIsMint...sorry for the rude intro.....

Welcome to the cafe. We're pretty friendly here, and will always try to answer ???s you might have. You might want to take a look at the mock drafts that were run here in Feb. and March to see where players are falling....for example, Pierre was taken in the 4th round in that draft, and you would have missed out on guys like Sheffield, Beltre, Teixeira, Miggy Cabrera. These guys are the offensive forces that drive teams. Solid ba, HRs, RBIs, and maybe a few SBs for the gravy. Cornbread is another great resource, although we don't agree on everything, he is a solid resource to consider when drafting your team.

Good Luck!

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Postby MaggsIsMint » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:48 pm

Hey guys, thanks for the help. Your perspectives will help me a great deal in this upcoming draft.

I am a big fan of fantasy sports and this is only my 2nd baseball draft and so I am just getting used to the roto system. I have won hockey and football drafts in the past which have both been points leagues so this is prety different for me.

I appreciate your insight though and agree on your assessments of Pierre. I look forward to coming on here throughout the rest of the spring and the summer.

Thanks again ;-D
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