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Postby brandnew » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:28 am

LBJackal wrote:
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brandnew wrote:Stop bashing Hampton, check out his 2nd Half numbers.


33 K, 25 BB in 72 IP. Not impressed. The difference in his two halves was mostly luck on balls hit in play.


It's nice to see other people noticing these things. 33/25 K/BB is really bad. This is the same mirage Horacio Ramirez pulled at the start of the year.


I've had a long argument on why I think Horacio defies stats, I don't really want to go into it again. He's not a good fantasy pitcher, but effective in real life.


He'll have to defy not only stats, but the laws of physics to have an ERA below 4.50 in 2005.


Care to make a wager? :-D
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Postby LBJackal » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:35 am

brandnew wrote:
LBJackal wrote:
brandnew wrote:
LBJackal wrote:
Spartans Rule wrote:
brandnew wrote:Stop bashing Hampton, check out his 2nd Half numbers.


33 K, 25 BB in 72 IP. Not impressed. The difference in his two halves was mostly luck on balls hit in play.


It's nice to see other people noticing these things. 33/25 K/BB is really bad. This is the same mirage Horacio Ramirez pulled at the start of the year.


I've had a long argument on why I think Horacio defies stats, I don't really want to go into it again. He's not a good fantasy pitcher, but effective in real life.


He'll have to defy not only stats, but the laws of physics to have an ERA below 4.50 in 2005.


Care to make a wager? :-D


I've already made my off-season bet, but feel free to bring this thread back up if he somehow has a good year.
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Postby Conner » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:48 am

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The difference in his two halves was not luck on balls put into play. It was effective location of his sinker. He walked 48 batters in 91 IP, and 30 batters in 99 IP in the second half in '03. He gave up the same amount of hits in the first and second half.


First half hit rate of balls in play: 36%
Second half hit rate of balls in play: 27%

Pretty easy to see that there was a huge difference there. He was unlucky in the first half...And he absolutely did get lucky on balls put into play in the second half.

First half rate of men that he left on base, who didn't score: 70%
Second half rate of men that he left on base, who didn't score: 77%

His bullpen saved his ERA a whole bunch in the second half.


Average his first and second half numbers together to get a better look at what his numbers would look like without the good or bad luck....They're not good.
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Postby NZF » Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:34 am

Millwood by a margin
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Postby brandnew » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:54 am

Eat some Hampton Crow suckaz!

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Postby NZF » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:21 am

I'd still prefer Millwood.
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Postby brandnew » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:49 am

New Zealand Fan wrote:I'd still prefer Millwood.



Note: You are not eligible for crow eating, as you did not speak wrongly towards the Hampton name


Ehh, c'mon, lemme have some fun, Andruw and Beltre are killing me with predictions so far this year.
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Postby TB13 » Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:11 am

LBJackal wrote:Actually I'm avoiding him. He'll single-handedly destroy your team's WHIP and won't help in any category.


That statement has been invalid since July of last year. Ok, Hampton has not helped out my K's, but he HAS been invalid in every other cat.
I picked him up off the waiver wire this year and have started him in every game. He's been great.
Kazmir will be better in the future, but not right now. And Hampton is heads and shoulders better than Millwood right now.
If Hampton is available in your league and you have not picked him up, you are missing out.
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Postby brandnew » Sun May 08, 2005 3:32 pm

I hate to say I told you so, but.. wait, what am I saying? I love saying I told you so! :-D
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