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Postby JTWood » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:06 pm

Are these unrealistic projections for the National's closer?

7-3, 32 S, 85 IP, 68 H, 2.87 ERA, 43 BB, 88 K, 1.30 WHIP, 7 BS, 8 Hld
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Postby Mustangs989 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:07 pm

To put simply yes, he walks too many to be a dominant closer IMO.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:10 pm

If he posts a 1.9 WHIP with a 2.87 ERA he will have really accomplished something.


Seriously, imo, numbers too high across the board. Bad team and whacked manager.

4-2, 28 S, 3.2 ERA 1.27 WHIP, 70 IP 68 Ks

would be realistic if he keeps the job all season.
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Postby atlbraves11 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:10 pm

yes but a 1.9 WHIP??
here are my projections
31 saves
2.89 ERA
1.36 WHIP
85 Ks
and he should probably get about 6 or 7 wins
close to yours but a better WHIP
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Postby curious_george_43545 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:10 pm

Mustangs989 wrote:To put simply yes, he walks too many to be a dominant closer IMO.
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Postby paw75 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:12 pm

I don't think so either. With 32 saves, I would assume that would make the Nationals a team with a winning record maybe even competing for a wild card spot. Let's not forget these are still the Expos.
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Postby Mercer Boy » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:14 pm

paw75 wrote:I don't think so either. With 32 saves, I would assume that would make the Nationals a team with a winning record maybe even competing for a wild card spot. Let's not forget these are still the Expos.


Not necessarily...the Pirates' closers generally save between 35-45 games a year, and they haven't been over .500 in 12 years. :~(

It just means that the team doesn't blow others out...they always have to win close games. :-)
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Postby atlbraves11 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:15 pm

they got the same amount of wins as the brewers last year(67) and kolb got 39 saves
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Postby paw75 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:16 pm

Mercer Boy wrote:Not necessarily...the Pirates' closers generally save between 35-45 games a year, and they haven't been over .500 in 12 years. :~(

It just means that the team doesn't blow others out...they always have to win close games. :-)



True. We will see. I am think more along the lines of 25 saves this year.



And I am not sold on Kolb. Big Braves fan, but I got a wait and see on Kolb.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:17 pm

Not necessarily. Bad teams can have closers that post 30-35 saves without much sweat. Win 60-65 games it means they save about half the games which is not that unusual. Mo can save 50 on a Yankee team that will win 100+, so a team winning 65 can have a closer with 30-32 saves. We have seen Mike Williams save 50 for a Pitts team, Graves save 40+ for a bad Cincy team and Kolb save a good number for the Brewers. Decent talents on bad teams will get saves.
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