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Postby TheYanks04 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:56 pm

Barring a "de-roided" miracle (or the ever popular flaxseed oil) that should last about 2 week's worth of a .230 avg and Sheff getting IBB'ed about twice a game. Then he bats between Bernie and Tino under George's order if need be. Sooner if the 20 M a year roid boy costs George a game early in the season vs. Boston.
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Postby so0perspam » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:58 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:Barring a "de-roided" miracle (or the ever popular flaxseed oil) that should last about 2 week's worth of a .230 avg and Sheff getting IBB'ed about twice a game. Then he bats between Bernie and Tino under George's order if need be. Sooner if the 20 M a year roid boy costs George a game early in the season vs. Boston.


Uhhh ..... :-?
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Postby gtabaplayr1 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:13 pm

[quote="Vladdy the Impaler"]yes i know he was on steroids during his MVP run days... but even after a season of .250 and .208 avg... hes a career .297 hitter [b]AND steroids only make u hit the ball harder[/b]... so his avg's were only slightly... but not dramatically impacted by the juice.

giambi is 34 and not too far removed from his best days.[/quote]

Thats a pretty narrow statement that steroids ONLY make you hit the ball harder. Steroids also improve fast twitch muscles enabling a player to swing faster therefore they can wait longer before having to commit to a pitch. That gives them more time to see the ball, thats why Bonds is so good he has the quickest, most compact swing in the league; same thing with Mcgwire as he got older(and used steroids?).
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Postby Conner » Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:27 pm

I think the steroids ended up hurting Giambi more than they helped him.

Hes the kind of hitter that relies more on talent (eyesight, pitch selection) than on physical abilities.

The past couple of years, just about every team in the league implemented a huge shift for Giambi (3 infielders on the right side, all OF's shifted way over to rightfield)...but he just kept trying to pull homeruns.

Without the steroids, I think he may hit less homers, but will go back to using the whole field a lot better.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:44 pm

Giambi go the opposite way to break up the overshift? Now there is an idea presented to him about oh...1 million times in the past couple of years. By just about EVERYONE including the media and the fans. Refused to do it then so why would you think he has any more brains now? Stubborn as a mule. All he had to do was slap the ball in the general direction of third 2 or 3 times and that overshift would largely have disappeared.
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Postby free » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:52 pm

so0perspam wrote:Just a sidenote for those doubters that Giambi will bat cleanup, here's what it'll look like Opening Day 2005:

1. Derek Jeter
2. Alex Rodriguez
3. Gary Sheffield
4. Jason Giambi
5. Jorge Posada
6. Hideki Matsui
7. Bernie Williams
8. Tino Martinez
9. Tony Womack



why would hideki bat behind jorge? he's a much better hitter than ol' posada :-?
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Postby blankman » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:54 pm

so0perspam wrote:Just a sidenote for those doubters that Giambi will bat cleanup, here's what it'll look like Opening Day 2005:

1. Derek Jeter
2. Alex Rodriguez
3. Gary Sheffield
4. Jason Giambi
5. Jorge Posada
6. Hideki Matsui
7. Bernie Williams
8. Tino Martinez
9. Tony Womack


Says who? I find it hard to believe that is set in stone. Matsui should hit cleanup in my opinion and 5th at the lowest.
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Postby blankman » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:55 pm

free wrote:
so0perspam wrote:Just a sidenote for those doubters that Giambi will bat cleanup, here's what it'll look like Opening Day 2005:

1. Derek Jeter
2. Alex Rodriguez
3. Gary Sheffield
4. Jason Giambi
5. Jorge Posada
6. Hideki Matsui
7. Bernie Williams
8. Tino Martinez
9. Tony Womack



why would hideki bat behind jorge? he's a much better hitter than ol' posada :-?


Agreed
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Postby Strasil42 » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:08 am

free wrote:
so0perspam wrote:Just a sidenote for those doubters that Giambi will bat cleanup, here's what it'll look like Opening Day 2005:

1. Derek Jeter
2. Alex Rodriguez
3. Gary Sheffield
4. Jason Giambi
5. Jorge Posada
6. Hideki Matsui
7. Bernie Williams
8. Tino Martinez
9. Tony Womack




why would hideki bat behind jorge? he's a much better hitter than ol' posada :-?



my thoughts exactly. Matsui has to bat cleanup this year, hes a beast. why would they ever want him in the 6 hole?
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Postby Conner » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:11 am

free wrote:
so0perspam wrote:Just a sidenote for those doubters that Giambi will bat cleanup, here's what it'll look like Opening Day 2005:

1. Derek Jeter
2. Alex Rodriguez
3. Gary Sheffield
4. Jason Giambi
5. Jorge Posada
6. Hideki Matsui
7. Bernie Williams
8. Tino Martinez
9. Tony Womack



why would hideki bat behind jorge? he's a much better hitter than ol' posada :-?


I don't think so0perspam's lineup is set in stone.....But Torre does like to keep up with the lefty/righty/lefty/righty type of lineup. He loves to stick a switch hitter in between two lefties or righties.
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