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Postby Woolly » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:37 pm

VLAD - The Impaler

A-Rod won't get the ave that Vlad will have, he plays at a deeper position (3B) that Vlad does (OF is shallow - some will disagree). Vlad isn't a Yankee pansie either! :-b
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:38 pm

Woolly wrote:VLAD - The Impaler

A-Rod won't get the ave that Vlad will have, he plays at a deeper position (3B) that Vlad does (OF is shallow - some will disagree). Vlad isn't a Yankee pansie either! :-b


Yankee pansie is just an idiotic comment but the rest I agree with. If Vlad is healthy, he's borderline best player in baseball.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:42 pm

ajgnydc722 wrote:
Phatferd wrote:
ajgnydc722 wrote:Vlad but Phatferd doesn't know what he's talking about with A-Rod.


Am I not correct in saying he is a .285 hitter with power numbers decreasing every year for the past 3 years? I would like to think you are the one who dpesn't knows what he is talking about.

HOMER :-t


Homer? I just said I'd take Vlad over him. Not to mention davus agreed and he's not a Yankee fan. I don't even especially like A-Rod, but I know he's definately a good consideration for the number 1 or 2 pick.

A-Rod got off to a horrible start last year. He was pressing. Everyone presses when they come to New York. A-Rod had a down year and still put up spectacular numbers.

A-Rod will hit 40-42 homeruns, drive in 115-125 runs, score 110-120 runs, bat around .295 and steal 20 bases.

Those numbers blow Abreu out of the water.

He won't be hitting 40 home runs in Yankee Stadium. The last righty to do that was Dimaggio. That isn't just random, its very hard for righties to hit there. I'd say somewhere in the 35-38 range for Arod.
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Postby Woolly » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:44 pm

ajgnydc722 wrote:
Woolly wrote:VLAD - The Impaler

A-Rod won't get the ave that Vlad will have, he plays at a deeper position (3B) that Vlad does (OF is shallow - some will disagree). Vlad isn't a Yankee pansie either! :-b


Yankee pansie is just an idiotic comment but the rest I agree with. If Vlad is healthy, he's borderline best player in baseball.


I just threw the pansie part in there to help people make an informed decision. Sorry, I didn't not mean to offend. :-]
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:46 pm

CubsFan7724 wrote:
ajgnydc722 wrote:
Phatferd wrote:
ajgnydc722 wrote:Vlad but Phatferd doesn't know what he's talking about with A-Rod.


Am I not correct in saying he is a .285 hitter with power numbers decreasing every year for the past 3 years? I would like to think you are the one who dpesn't knows what he is talking about.

HOMER :-t


Homer? I just said I'd take Vlad over him. Not to mention davus agreed and he's not a Yankee fan. I don't even especially like A-Rod, but I know he's definately a good consideration for the number 1 or 2 pick.

A-Rod got off to a horrible start last year. He was pressing. Everyone presses when they come to New York. A-Rod had a down year and still put up spectacular numbers.

A-Rod will hit 40-42 homeruns, drive in 115-125 runs, score 110-120 runs, bat around .295 and steal 20 bases.

Those numbers blow Abreu out of the water.

He won't be hitting 40 home runs in Yankee Stadium. The last righty to do that was Dimaggio. That isn't just random, its very hard for righties to hit there. I'd say somewhere in the 35-38 range for Arod.


A-Rod hit 36 there with a bad first half. Soriano hit 39 there. A-Rod has hit nearly 60 out in the past. I'm willing to wager that he hits 40 this year.
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Postby Phatferd » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:48 pm

ajgnydc722 wrote:
Phatferd wrote:
ajgnydc722 wrote:Vlad but Phatferd doesn't know what he's talking about with A-Rod.


Am I not correct in saying he is a .285 hitter with power numbers decreasing every year for the past 3 years? I would like to think you are the one who dpesn't knows what he is talking about.

HOMER :-t


...A-Rod got off to a horrible start last year. He was pressing. Everyone presses when they come to New York. A-Rod had a down year and still put up spectacular numbers.

A-Rod will hit 40-42 homeruns, drive in 115-125 runs, score 110-120 runs, bat around .295 and steal 20 bases.

Those numbers blow Abreu out of the water.


How can you sayHE WILL hit 40-42, you can't say anyone WILL do anything. He CAN hit that many and has in the past, but that was in the launching pad now known as Ameriquest field.

So he got off to a bad start? OK I will give you that, but why have his numbers gone down every single year for the past 3? Its a trend and I would be concerned from a fantasy standpoint. In real baseball I would take his numbers (not for 25 mil :-o ), but to say I know nothing is not accurate. There is a lot of evidence supporting his decreased production.
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:53 pm

Decreasing production?

2001- .318-52-135
2002- .300-57-142
2003- .298-47-124
2004- .286-36-112

So he fluctuated between 45-55 homeruns and in the range of 10 RBIs from 2001-2003. And that's a significant drop? I know he had a down year last year. But if he gets off to a normal start, he'll get up around the numbers I wrote him down for. He's not going to match the Texas numbers but that's only because he's not playing in Texas.
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Postby citti34 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:53 pm

Vlad, but AROD is damn GOOD and not limping around like Vlad.
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:56 pm

citti34 wrote:Vlad, but AROD is damn GOOD and not limping around like Vlad.


Is there any proof that Vlad is limping around? I wish I knew because my draft is tomorrow and I'm like 98% sure I'm going to take him.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:59 pm

ajgnydc722 wrote:Decreasing production?

2001- .318-52-135
2002- .300-57-142
2003- .298-47-124
2004- .286-36-112

So he fluctuated between 45-55 homeruns and in the range of 10 RBIs from 2001-2003. And that's a significant drop? I know he had a down year last year. But if he gets off to a normal start, he'll get up around the numbers I wrote him down for. He's not going to match the Texas numbers but that's only because he's not playing in Texas.

Well, his average has dropped each year, and his home runs since 02, and his RBIs since 02 also. His slugging and OPS have declined every year since 02, and that was in Texas. I would think that counts as decreasing numbers.
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