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Postby LBJackal » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:52 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:I cant let it go LBJ -

I have 6 of my 9 starting offensive players that project at least 100 Rs, 1 over 90, and 2 over 70. How are you beating me?

The runs are bad, but its the BA projection that has me scratching my head. 6 starters hitting well over .300, 1 at .290, and 2 others at .270 at a minium. How does that come out to .290?


Bonds: .348
Mora: .290
Loretta: .306
I-Rod: .297
Guillen: .280
Finley: .283
Alou: .281
Delgado: .272
Drew: .270

There's your 9 starters... comes out to .290 overall. Bonds is high but doesn't get many AB's.

Cabrera: .291
Boone: .273
Beltran: .287
Sheffield: .313
Kendall: .289
Casey: .314
Pods: .266
Koskie: .270
Gonzo: .298

There's mine, comes out to .289 overall. I think I was conservative with Beltran, he could easily be at .300+ and he gets a lot of AB's.

So sure, if you go by last year's BA I'd be much lower, but we're not going by last year's. I think we'll be close in BA, R, HR, you'll have me in SV, K, RBI, and I'll have you in SB, W, ERA and WHIP.
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Postby Tribe-Fan » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:58 pm

I will say it was good to read through 3 pages of posts without a single person mentioning my team as the team to beat. Last year I seemed to be the consensus favorite after the draft, at least by posters in our draft re-cap thread, and it haunted me all year.

My team, I was trying a few new twists, taking a few new chances. I probably waited a little too long to fill my infield spots besides 1st, ending up with a Castillo, Crosby, Boone combo at 2nd, SS, 3rd.

I am a little weak in the speed department, and I would have liked to lock down one more stud pitcher to go with Oswalt, but I have 3 closers and plenty of power from which to trade. Draft day balance is overated, draft for talent, trade for balance.

It should be a good and competitive league, and I am confident a RotoGuys team will prevail once again.

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Postby TheRawDAWG » Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:24 pm

LBJackal wrote:
Cornbread Maxwell wrote:I cant let it go LBJ -

I have 6 of my 9 starting offensive players that project at least 100 Rs, 1 over 90, and 2 over 70. How are you beating me?

The runs are bad, but its the BA projection that has me scratching my head. 6 starters hitting well over .300, 1 at .290, and 2 others at .270 at a minium. How does that come out to .290?


Bonds: .348
Mora: .290
Loretta: .306
I-Rod: .297
Guillen: .280
Finley: .283
Alou: .281
Delgado: .272
Drew: .270

There's your 9 starters... comes out to .290 overall. Bonds is high but doesn't get many AB's.

Cabrera: .291
Boone: .273
Beltran: .287
Sheffield: .313
Kendall: .289
Casey: .314
Pods: .266
Koskie: .270
Gonzo: .298

There's mine, comes out to .289 overall. I think I was conservative with Beltran, he could easily be at .300+ and he gets a lot of AB's.

So sure, if you go by last year's BA I'd be much lower, but we're not going by last year's. I think we'll be close in BA, R, HR, you'll have me in SV, K, RBI, and I'll have you in SB, W, ERA and WHIP.


LBJ, I think you have discounted Cornbread's hitter too much. You only have 2 of his guys hitting over .300.

Here's what I think the averages of each of his players will be.

Bonds: .345
Mora: .318
Loretta: .316
I-Rod: .306
Guillen (assuming Jose to lazy to go back and check which one): .286
Finley: .275
Alou: .288
Delgado: .290 (healthy second half of last year and showed what he can do)
Drew: .285


I think with these guys Corn has a chance to hit .300 as a team. Thats huge!! Plus has some decent power too, if everyone stays healthy. Just my opinion.

I actually like your projections for your guys though. Kendall's average might be low but the rest seem to be in line.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:32 pm

Bloody Nipples wrote:
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Strasil42 wrote:the picks are all blurry

click on it to enlarge?


Im an idiot. Thanks

But am i seeing things?/ i swear it says carlos lee 3rd round... and he even went right before huff. Gotta be the worst pick of the draft. 3rd round??????????


I'm happy with that pick. I have Lee going...

.300, 33, 95, 100, 12

So, hes going to set a career high in home runs by moving to a tougher pitching division, and a park that isn't as good for home runs? I don't see it happening, and I'll say it wasn't a very good value pick. You should have waited, he would have lasted at least to round 4.
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Postby Bloody Nipples » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:26 pm

Remember, I was in 11th position, so my 4th round pick was only 4 picks later for me. He wouldnt have made it back to me in round 5 I am sure.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:28 pm

LBJackal wrote:
Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Bonds: .348
Mora: .290
Loretta: .306
I-Rod: .297
Guillen: .280
Finley: .283
Alou: .281
Delgado: .272
Drew: .270

There's your 9 starters... comes out to .290 overall. Bonds is high but doesn't get many AB's.

Cabrera: .291
Boone: .273
Beltran: .287
Sheffield: .313
Kendall: .289
Casey: .314
Pods: .266
Koskie: .270
Gonzo: .298


:-D

LBJ - do you realize you discounted the BA of each of my starters - some by .04 or more - while similarly boosting the BA of almost every one of your players?

thats pretty funny - especially since I still beat you. }:-)
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Postby LBJackal » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:40 pm

TheRawDAWG wrote:
LBJackal wrote:
Cornbread Maxwell wrote:I cant let it go LBJ -

I have 6 of my 9 starting offensive players that project at least 100 Rs, 1 over 90, and 2 over 70. How are you beating me?

The runs are bad, but its the BA projection that has me scratching my head. 6 starters hitting well over .300, 1 at .290, and 2 others at .270 at a minium. How does that come out to .290?


Bonds: .348
Mora: .290
Loretta: .306
I-Rod: .297
Guillen: .280
Finley: .283
Alou: .281
Delgado: .272
Drew: .270

There's your 9 starters... comes out to .290 overall. Bonds is high but doesn't get many AB's.

Cabrera: .291
Boone: .273
Beltran: .287
Sheffield: .313
Kendall: .289
Casey: .314
Pods: .266
Koskie: .270
Gonzo: .298

There's mine, comes out to .289 overall. I think I was conservative with Beltran, he could easily be at .300+ and he gets a lot of AB's.

So sure, if you go by last year's BA I'd be much lower, but we're not going by last year's. I think we'll be close in BA, R, HR, you'll have me in SV, K, RBI, and I'll have you in SB, W, ERA and WHIP.


LBJ, I think you have discounted Cornbread's hitter too much. You only have 2 of his guys hitting over .300.

Here's what I think the averages of each of his players will be.

Bonds: .345
Mora: .318
Loretta: .316
I-Rod: .306
Guillen (assuming Jose to lazy to go back and check which one): .286
Finley: .275
Alou: .288
Delgado: .290 (healthy second half of last year and showed what he can do)
Drew: .285


I think with these guys Corn has a chance to hit .300 as a team. Thats huge!! Plus has some decent power too, if everyone stays healthy. Just my opinion.

I actually like your projections for your guys though. Kendall's average might be low but the rest seem to be in line.


The Guillen is Carlos... .280 seems low, but he's traditionally been a .270 hitter with a .310 IPAvg, and last year had a .352 IPAvg. That indicates luck (most hitters are around .300 and it's not the easiest thing to control).

Same goes with Drew... had a .342 IPAvg last year, and his norm is around .295 I believe. It might be a bit low at .270 but he's probably going to break someting before the season starts anyway :-D
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Postby NZF » Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:54 pm

I did have a bit of a hispanic .......ez thing going early on and the first 4-5 rounds did frustrate the hell out of me, thanks to CB and mtarail.

Overall though I'm reasonably happy with the draft (especially the mid to late rounds), wouldn't want to swap teams with anyone, although there are some nice rosters out there.


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Postby Mookie4ever » Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:44 pm

I kind of like Pogo and mtrail's teams.

But its really hard to just look at a draft board and form an opinion. It's much easier to look at rosters to see the players at their positions.

Both of these guys need another closer but otherwise they seem to be pretty solid.

Actually every team seems to be ok - it always comes down to team management anyways, this is where Erboes will make you all look silly :-b
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Postby NZF » Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:47 pm

Anyone care to set some odds on the winner of this league?
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