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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:05 pm

Tell it like it is SA ;-D

The Teix hype machine is in full effect.

Whats the difference in value between Teix and Hafner? Now, how many rds normally seperate them in drafts?
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:20 pm

I just don't see why everyone likes Hafner so much. He is a nice player to have but he resembles Sean Casey to me. Say hell to a .300 BA, 100 RBI, 90 R, 25 HR and 3 SB. Not bad numbers by any means but I don't expect more from him. He will be 28 this year.

Tex on the other hand is 24 and has a good chance to have a .300 BA, 120 RBI, 100 R, 40 HR and 3 SB.
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Re: Travis Hafner

Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:27 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:I just don't see why everyone likes Hafner so much. He is a nice player to have but he resembles Sean Casey to me. Say hell to a .300 BA, 100 RBI, 90 R, 25 HR and 3 SB. Not bad numbers by any means but I don't expect more from him. He will be 28 this year.


He put up those numbers in 80 fewer ABs - thats why. He is a very good contact hitter with good power batting in the middle of a decent lineup. 28 is right about peak age. Between Tex and Hafner I have possibly about 5-10 more HRs to Tex but thats about it, every other cat should be a push or in Hafners favor - obviously BA goes to Hafner. Is that worth 5+ rds difference in value in standard 12 team leagues?

also - why should I think Tex will bat .300?
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Re: Travis Hafner

Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:37 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:
also - why should I think Tex will bat .300?
Look at his college and minor league numbers. Plus he has shown steady improvement in the majors while battling injuries.

2004 Pre AS break: 260 AB .254 BA
2004 Post AS break: 269 AB .264 BA
2005 Pre AS break: 258 AB .275 BA
2005 Post AS break: 287 AB .286 BA
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:47 pm

100R, 42hr, 120RBI, 3SB, .290 - 2nd rd
100R, 35HR, 120RBI, 3SB, .310 - 6th rd

Thats the argument the way I see it.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:55 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:100R, 42hr, 120RBI, 3SB, .290 - 2nd rd
100R, 35HR, 120RBI, 3SB, .310 - 6th rd

Thats the argument the way I see it.
And that is where we differ cause I don't see Hafner being that good. :-)
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Postby shizzlemynizzle » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:56 pm

Tex was 11th in points in my h2h league last year. Just above Helton.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:06 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
Cornbread Maxwell wrote:100R, 42hr, 120RBI, 3SB, .290 - 2nd rd
100R, 35HR, 120RBI, 3SB, .310 - 6th rd

Thats the argument the way I see it.
And that is where we differ cause I don't see Hafner being that good. :-)


you think he was just a fluke then?

if you project haf's numbers out to the same ABs as tex you get:
108,32,123,.310
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:17 pm

I think it was somewhat of a fluke. I don't expect him to improve on last year's numbers but I don't expect him to completely fall off.
.300 BA, 100 RBI, 90 R, 25 HR and 3 SB
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Postby rjforlife » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:27 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:I think it was somewhat of a fluke. I don't expect him to improve on last year's numbers but I don't expect him to completely fall off.
.300 BA, 100 RBI, 90 R, 25 HR and 3 SB



i dont no why you go from 28 hr to 25 hr when in all likelyhood he will add 50-100 abs this season, as well as dropping his rbi from 109 to 100, again with the AB increase very likely.

550 ABs .305 BA, 115 RBI, 100 R, 33 HR, 5 SB is where i have hafner, most cats just a slight increase from last seasons numbers in 482 abs
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