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Why doesn't ROTO factor in walks?

Postby thrash » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:48 pm

I play straight fantasy point...but it just seems logical to count walks and strikeouts as a category. Either just plain walks, or a BB/K ratio. It's such a large part of real baseball, and a player's value, that it should be at least a category in roto.

Am I wrong here?
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:52 pm

i think roto doesnt have walks because roto started before anyone cared about walks or strikeouts. there are custom roto leagues now that have walks, ops, and other stuff like that but most people stick with traditional 5x5, maybe just for the sake of simplicity.
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Postby thrash » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:56 pm

Well obviously the "standard" can be changed.

Bonds is the most valuable hitter in the game...it only seems right that he be the same thing in fantasy baseball.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:02 pm

Theres also a large group of people that dont think fantasy baseball should try and mirror real baseball.

If you include SOs and walks, you better include assists, and errors. Oh yeah - dont forget you also need to face a different team every day and stat totals at the end of that day are final too - no weekly matchups.
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Postby mtarail » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:10 pm

Pretty easy to add walks. Yahoo has a walks stat that you can add. Or you could get a little more complicated and add an OBP category.
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Postby bleach168 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:13 pm

Use OBP instead of AVG and you factor in walks very conveniently.

I don't think you need Ks so much as players who K a lot usually get penalized already in RBI situations. Adam Dunn, the poster child for Ks, barely got 102 RBIs even though he hit 46 homers.
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Postby bigjimblue » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:13 pm

Yes OBP is the easiest and fairest way to represent walks, hbp, etc.
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Postby xeifrank » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:14 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Theres also a large group of people that dont think fantasy baseball should try and mirror real baseball.

If you include SOs and walks, you better include assists, and errors. Oh yeah - dont forget you also need to face a different team every day and stat totals at the end of that day are final too - no weekly matchups.


haha! good points. I brought up a similiar point that the original poster made about the flaws in the standard 5x5 roto categories. There's a very long thread on here with some great responses... do a search.

Many roto players have switched from batting average to OBP. There's your walks right there. 10 categories seems like the best number of manageable categories, if you add too many more you tend to change the dynamics of the game too much and make it harder to evaluate players. Sure the standard 5x5 may not be "the best" or "most realistic" categories but is that really a problem?

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