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VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby TribeIn2012 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:14 am

These are my first rankings for the 2013 season. All advice welcome and appreciated!

Rnk Catcher
1 Posey, Buster
2 Mauer, Joe
3 Molina, Yadier
4 Santana, Carlos
5 Montero, Miguel
6 Wieters, Matt
7 Martinez, Victor
8 Grandall, Yasmani
9 Perez, Salvodor
10 McCann, Brian
11 Ruiz, Carlos
12 Pierzynski, A.J.
13 Rosario, Wilin
14 Montero, Jesus
15 Napoli, Mike

Rnk First Basemen
1 Votto, Joey
2 Pujols, Albert
3 Fielder, Prince
4 Posey, Buster
5 Encarnation, Edwin
6 Gonzalez, Adrian
7 Butler, Billy
8 Mauer, Joe
9 Goldschmidt, Paul
10 Ortiz, David
11 Teixeria, Mark
12 Hart, Corey
13 Konerko, Paul
14 Craig, Allen
15 Santana, Carlos
16 Howard, Ryan
17 Rizzo, Anthony
18 Sandoval, Pablo
19 Morse, Michael
20 Hosmer, Eric
21 LaRoche, Adam
22 Trumbo, Mark
23 Davis, Chris
24 Freeman, Freddie
25 Swisher, Nick
26 Martinez, Victor
27 Morales, Kendrys
28 Moss, Brandon
29 Carter, Cris
30 Dunn, Adam

Rnk Second Basemen
1 Cano, Robinson
2 Hill, Aaron
3 Phillips, Brandon
4 Kipnis, Jason
5 Kinsler, Ian
6 Zobrist, Ben
7 Pedroia, Dustin
8 Utley, Chase
9 Prado, Martin
10 Walker, Neil
11 Altuve, Jose
12 Uggla, Dan
13 Weeks, Rickie
14 Kendrick, Howie
15 Scutaro, Marco

Rnk Third Basemen
1 Cabrera, Miguel
2 Longoria, Evan
3 Bautista, Jose
4 Headley, Chase
5 Wright, David
6 Beltre, Adrian
7 Zimmerman, Ryan
8 Ramirez, Aramis
9 Ramirez, Hanley
10 Sandoval, Pablo
11 Freese, David
12 Trumbo, Mark
13 Lawrie, Brett
14 Rodriguez, Alex
15 Prado, Martin
16 Moustakas, Mike
17 Young, Michael
18 Scutaro, Marco
19 Frazier, Todd
20 Machado, Manny
21 Johnson, Chris
22 Middlebrooks, Wil
23 Alvarez, Pedro
24 Chisenhall, Lonnie
25 Youkilis, Kevin

Rnk Short Stop
1 Reyes, Jose
2 Tulowitzki, Troy
3 Desmond, Ian
4 Castro, Starlin
5 Andrus, Elvis
6 Rollins, Jimmy
7 Cabrera, Asdrubal
8 Ramirez, Hanley
9 Zobrist, Ben
10 Jeter, Derek
11 Aybar, Erick
12 Escobar, Alcides
13 Simmons, Andrelton
14 Scutaro, Marco
15 Ramirez, Alexi

Rnk Outfield
1 Braun, Ryan
2 Trout, Mike
3 McCutchen, Andrew
4 Stanton, Giancarlo
5 Hamilton, Josh
6 Kemp, Matt
7 Gonzalez, Carlos
8 Holliday, Matt
9 Gonzalez, Adrian
10 Bautista, Jose
11 Rios, Alex
12 Jones, Adam
13 Beltran, Carlos
14 Upton, BJ
15 Upton, Justin
16 Granderson, Curtis
17 Harper, Bryce
18 Choo, Shin-Soo
19 Heyward, Jason
20 Ellsbury, Jacoby
21 Cespedes, Yoenis
22 Zobrist, Ben
23 Bourn, Michael
24 Bruce, Jay
25 Cruz, Nelson
26 Willingham, Josh
27 Jackson, Austin
28 Gordon, Alex
29 Either, Andre
30 Allen, Craig
31 Suzuki, Ichiro
32 Markakis, Nick
33 Morse, Michael
34 Jennings, Desmond
35 Pence, Hunter
36 Hart, Corey
37 Kubel, Jason
38 Reddick, Josh
39 Soriano, Alfonso
40 Trumbo, Mark
41 Davis, Chris
42 Swisher, Nick
43 Werth, Jayson
44 Hunter, Torri
45 Pagan, Angel
46 Cabrera, Melky
47 Victorino, Shane
48 De Aza, Aljandro
49 Moss, Brandon
50 Quentin, Carlos
51 Cuddyer, Michael
52 Fowler, Dexter
53 Revere, Ben
54 Crisp, Coco
55 Pierre, Juan
56 Norichika, Aoki
57 Span, Denard
58 Brantley, Michael
59 Ludwick, Ryan
60 Stubbs, Drew

Rnk Starting Pitcher
1 Verlandez, Justin
2 Kershaw, Clayton
3 Strasburg, Stephen
4 Price, David
5 Hernandez, Felix
6 Cain, Matt
7 Weaver, Jered
8 Grienke, Zach
9 Gonzalez, Gio
10 Dickey, R.A.
11 Hamels, Cole
12 Sabathia, CC
13 Lee, Cliff
14 Bumgarner, Madison
15 Cueteo, Johnny
16 Medlen, Kris
17 Moore, Matt
18 Morrow, Brandon
19 Latos, Matt
20 Sale, Chris
21 Sherzer, Max
22 Gallardo, Yovanni
23 Beachy, Brandon
24 Halladay, Roy
25 Haren, Dan
26 Zimmerman, Jordan
27 Darvish, Yu
28 Hellickson, Jeremy
29 Wilson, CJ
30 Linecum, Tim
31 Sheilds, James
32 Samardizja, Jeff
33 Loshe, Kyle
34 Wainwright, Adam
35 Garza, Matt
36 Peavy, Jake
37 Sanchez, Anibal
38 Johnson, Josh
39 Anderson, Brett
40 Kennedy, Ian
41 Lester, Jon
42 Carpenter, Chris
43 Fiers, Mike
44 Fister, Doug
45 Billingsley, Chad
46 Capuano, Chris
47 Minor, Mike
48 Garcia, Jamie
49 Harvey, Matt
50 Lynn, Lance
51 Estrada, Marco
52 Dempster, Ryan
53 Jackson, Edwin
54 Burnett, A.J.
55 Lewis, Colby
56 Gee, Dillion
57 Beckett, Josh
58 Cashner, Andrew
59 Vogelsong, Ryan
60 Hughes, Phil
61 Niese, Jonathon
62 Bailey, Homer
63 Cahill, Trevor
64 Parkor, Jarrod
65 Miley, Wade
66 Kuroda, Hideki
67 Kendrick, Kyle
68 Rodriguez, Wandy
69 Milone, Tommy
70 McCarthy, Brandon
71 Hanson, Tommy
72 Arroyo, Bronson
73 Marcum, Shaun
74 Griffin, A.J.
75 Buehrle, Mark
76 Hudson, Tim
77 McDonald, James
78 Feliz, Neftali
79 Norris, Bud
80 Santana, Johan
81 Hammel, Jason
82 Harrison, Matt
83 Diamond, Scott
84 Richard, Clayton
85 Cobb, Alex
86 Tillman, Chris
87 Happ, J.A.
88 Masterson, Justin
89 Doubront, Felix
90 Niemann, Jeff
91 Maholm, Paul
92 Bucholz, Clay
93 Nolasco, Rickey
94 Harrell, Lucas
95 Romero, Rickey
96 Vargas, Jason
97 Danks, John
98 Volquez, Edison
99 Wood, Travis
100 Floyd, Gavin

Rnk Relief Pitcher
1 Kimbrel, Craig
2 Chapman, Aroldis
3 Jansen, Kenley
4 Rodney, Fernando
5 Papelbon, Jonathon
6 Motte, Jason
7 Rivera, Mariano
8 Johnson, Jim
9 Nathan, Joe
10 Putz, J.J.
11 Hanrahan, Joel
12 Street, Huston
13 Frieri, Ernesto
14 Balfour, Grant
15 Pestano, Vinnie
16 Axford, John
17 Valverde, Jose
18 Betancourt, Rafael
19 Janssen, Casey
20 Perez, Chris
21 Holland, Greg
22 Romo, Sergio
23 Soriano, Rafael
24 Clippard, Tyler
25 Wilhelmesen, Tom
26 Marmol, Carlos
27 Reed, Addison
28 Cishek, Steve
29 Capps, Matt
30 Wilson, Brian
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Re: VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby Inukchuk » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:35 pm

Moore and Morrow above Sale? :-?
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Re: VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby jfg » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:50 pm

I don't fault anyone for tempering expectations with Sale next year.
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Re: Re: VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby Urban Cohorts » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:59 pm

jfg wrote:I don't fault anyone for tempering expectations with Sale next year.


Care to elaborate? I can see the IP spike being detrimental, but Sale was filthy. He isn't a top 12 SP but I think 20th may be a tad low. I'd put him right behind Cueto.

Others I don't like are Trumbo in both 1st and 3rd base. Dunn is way too low. As is Dustin with his absurdly good run after returning from wrist problems. I still have him in the top 3 if healthy. Medlen is way too high IMO. No way he comes close to the success he had this year.
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Re: VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby Urban Cohorts » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:14 pm

I would also rank players at positions they will be primarily used at, even if qualify at more than one. Assuming you know they will have more value there.

Posey should be used as a catcher. Ranking him as a 1B can be nice for position by position comparison purposes, but no one is going to play him at 1B.

Just my $0.02
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Re: Re: VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby jfg » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:16 pm

Urban Cohorts wrote:
jfg wrote:I don't fault anyone for tempering expectations with Sale next year.


Care to elaborate? I can see the IP spike being detrimental, but Sale was filthy. He isn't a top 12 SP but I think 20th may be a tad low. I'd put him right behind Cueto.



The IP spike is what's going to keep me away. It's not just a spike, he pitched a full load (192 innings) this year minus a couple skipped starts after pitching 71 innings last year. That's enough to place him at least a tier or two down my list.
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Re: VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby GiantsFan14 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:06 pm

I haven't really looked at anything yet, but I'm a little skeptical about those 2B rankings. I'll be owning Kinsler/Pedroia in a lot of leagues if that ends up being standard.
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Re: VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby jfg » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:25 pm

I agree that Kinsler and Pedroia are too low but I'm kind of torn on what to do with Aaron Hill. I have him in a keeper where I have to choose between him and Justin Upton. Tell me I'd be even thinking about that back in April and I would have laughed at you. His career has been so odd, 2007 he was average, 2008 he sucked, 2009 he was a monster, 2010 the power stayed but the average sucked, 2011 he sucked until he got to Arizona where the average came back but no power still and then 2012 he's right around 2009 levels again. That's not a guy I necessarily want as the second 2B taken, but at the same time 2012 isn't a fluke.
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Re: VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby GiantsFan14 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:38 pm

jfg wrote:I agree that Kinsler and Pedroia are too low but I'm kind of torn on what to do with Aaron Hill. I have him in a keeper where I have to choose between him and Justin Upton. Tell me I'd be even thinking about that back in April and I would have laughed at you. His career has been so odd, 2007 he was average, 2008 he sucked, 2009 he was a monster, 2010 the power stayed but the average sucked, 2011 he sucked until he got to Arizona where the average came back but no power still and then 2012 he's right around 2009 levels again. That's not a guy I necessarily want as the second 2B taken, but at the same time 2012 isn't a fluke.


But it's Aaron hill. I can't imagine he'll go higher than Upton next year.
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Re: VERY EARLY 2013 Rankings

Postby jfg » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:16 pm

I agree with you, but he's not ranking draft position. My top 10 right now would be:

1 Cano
2 Kinsler
3 Pedroia
4 Hill
4 Phillips
5 Kipnis
6 Uggla
7 Zobrist
8 Prado
9 Walker
10 Altuve
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