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AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby SpecialFNK » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:43 am

who is going to win the 2012 AL MVP?
Mike Trout is an obvious choice for rookie of the year, but does he also win the MVP?
currently..
1st in AVG - .343
2nd in OBP - .407
1st in SLG - .603
1st in OPS - 1.010
1st in R - 97
1st in SB - 39
13th in HR - 24
16th in RBI - 70 (despite only batting leadoff)
he also didn't play much of the 1st month. ridiculous numbers.

in April before Trout came up the Los Angeles Angels were 6-14. the Angels are now 64-60, which means they have been 58-46 with Trout.

Mike Trout - .343/.407/.603/1.010/ 24 HR/ 70 RBI/ 97 R/ 39 SB

who else is there?

Miguel Cabrera? .326/.394/.584/.978/ 31 HR/ 105 RBI/ 82 R/
Prince Fielder? 310/.406/.517/.923/ 22 HR/ 89 RBI/ 66 R/
Josh Hamilton? .285/.351/.576/.927/ 34 HR/ 102 RBI/ 80 R/
Edwin Encarnacion? .291/.387/.564/.951/ 32 HR/ 84 RBI/ 75 R/
anyone I'm forgetting? I don't think there is anyone else who could win over the guys mentioned, especially Trout.

last year I remember a thread with heated debate, mostly over Jose Bautista. injuries have hurt him this season, but if he didn't win it last year I don't think he had much of a chance this year.
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby Izenhart » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:01 am

This is a dumb question, but is Trout still ROY eligible?

for MVP he's hands down it.
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby ayebatter » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:19 am

It's quite clear that barring any late season collapse, that Trout has a leg up on Cabrera, and is head and shoulders above the rest of the field.
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby Skin Blues » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:33 am

He could stop playing right now and still probably deserve the MVP. 4 months of Trout > 6 months of anybody else. He's on pace to put up 8 WAR in 2/3 of a season (middle 4 months) while runner up Robbie Cano is on pace to put up 7 WAR in the entire season. And it's not like fielding WAR skews this, he's actually behind Cano in terms of fielding (which is obviously debateable).
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby Bwanna » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:05 pm

Izenhart wrote:This is a dumb question, but is Trout still ROY eligible?


Yes.

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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby mkultra » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:28 pm

Miggy's the only other player who you could legitimately consider, and only because he's been able to deliver more HR and RBI through more at-bats. I think Trout gets the edge, though, because he's matched Miggy's power pace AND will have over 40 SB's by season's end.

I also think that you need to remember that many voters make their choice based on arbitrary reasons other than stats. In a year overshadowed by steroids and injuries, Trout's been a consistent feel-good story. My gut says people would prefer to end the year talking about "Mike Trout, the kid who saved baseball" rather than "I can't believe Mike Trout was robbed".
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby WaCougMBS » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:19 pm

ayebatter wrote:It's quite clear that barring any late season collapse, that Trout has a leg up on Cabrera, and is head and shoulders above the rest of the field.


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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby J35J » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:31 pm

...next question...
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby RyeWhiskey » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:51 pm

Sorry, but MCab gets the MVP award. The Angels are collapsing and looking like they won't make the second wildcard spot while Detroit has a legitimate chance at either taking back the Central or getting either the first or second spot. When the Angels aren't in the playoffs everyone is going to look down at their pants and be sad that the Trout party is over while MCab will continue to rake as he always does. Give the man his due.
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Re: AL MVP. Mike Trout show?

Postby jfg » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:53 pm

RyeWhiskey wrote:Sorry, but MCab gets the MVP award. The Angels are collapsing and looking like they won't make the second wildcard spot while Detroit has a legitimate chance at either taking back the Central or getting either the first or second spot. When the Angels aren't in the playoffs everyone is going to look down at their pants and be sad that the Trout party is over while MCab will continue to rake as he always does. Give the man his due.



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