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Postby johnsamo » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:43 pm

Did a little research... in one 8 year stretch, he threw 156 complete games, 40 of those shut outs. Yet the angels sucked so bad, on all but one of those years, he had fewer wins than complete games. Think about that. more complete games than wins.

I'm telling you, the guy was snakebit when it cames to his offense. The Angels were so bad back then, they had to retire Bobby Grich's number. Not that Grich was a bum, but he really only had one great season, but they had to pick some hitter from that era to honor.
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Postby Red Sox Nation » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:45 pm

johnsamo wrote:Did a little research... in one 8 year stretch, he threw 156 complete games, 40 of those shut outs. Yet the angels sucked so bad, on all but one of those years, he had fewer wins than complete games. Think about that. more complete games than wins.

I'm telling you, the guy was snakebit when it cames to his offense. The Angels were so bad back then, they had to retire Bobby Grich's number. Not that Grich was a bum, but he really only had one great season, but they had to pick some hitter from that era to honor.


Who would diss the all time K master? If you ask any baseball analyst or someone know hows baseball Nolan Ryan would be in their top 1 (actually top 5).
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Postby bigken117 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:45 pm

dont let Tavish see this thread :-o
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Postby great gretzky » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:48 pm

bears repeating, he punked robin ventura SO bad. One of my favorite sporting incidents ever. I love handing out the ventura award to acts that are majorly sissy. Ryan just put him down, it was great.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:51 pm

Back then pitchers had much more of a tedndency to finish what they started, It is only in relatively recent history with the LaRussa-ian closer for one inning and 5 man rotations and 100 pitch counts that all the coddling of SPs came into voigue and the CG went by the wayside.

I do not think counting Ryan's CGs really means a whole lot. That he played for some very bad teams obviously factors in quite a bit.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:57 pm

Over-Rated.
Nolan Ryan was a great pitcher but he doesn't belong in anyone's top 5. Way too many walks.
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Postby LouisC9999 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:59 pm

I was rooting for him to win the Cy Young in 1987 when he led the league in Ks (270) and ERA (2.76) but had an 8-16 record.
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Postby rentz » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:13 pm

great gretzky wrote:bears repeating, he punked robin ventura SO bad. One of my favorite sporting incidents ever. I love handing out the ventura award to acts that are majorly sissy. Ryan just put him down, it was great.


i was at that game ;-D
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:18 pm

rentz wrote:
great gretzky wrote:bears repeating, he punked robin ventura SO bad. One of my favorite sporting incidents ever. I love handing out the ventura award to acts that are majorly sissy. Ryan just put him down, it was great.


i was at that game ;-D



Ventura is never going to live that down.
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Re: To all Nolan Ryan dissers...

Postby mak1277 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:32 pm

Red Sox Nation wrote:
johnsamo wrote:Did a little research... in one 8 year stretch, he threw 156 complete games, 40 of those shut outs. Yet the angels sucked so bad, on all but one of those years, he had fewer wins than complete games. Think about that. more complete games than wins.

I'm telling you, the guy was snakebit when it cames to his offense. The Angels were so bad back then, they had to retire Bobby Grich's number. Not that Grich was a bum, but he really only had one great season, but they had to pick some hitter from that era to honor.


Who would diss the all time K master? If you ask any baseball analyst or someone know hows baseball Nolan Ryan would be in their top 1 (actually top 5).


This was actually done this year (with only living pitchers) and Ryan didn't rank in the top 5...I think he was actually outside the top 10 if I remember correctly.
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